RichNhansom":kmapofz8 said:Marvin49":kmapofz8 said:I dunno. I'm watching the Seahawks right now and it seems clear to me that they just have zero depth at all. Raiders just driving down the field time after time got TDs. You guys are in trouble.
49ers meanwhile just won 40-13, so obviously they are the greatest team of all time and on their way to 19-0 and their 6th Lombardi.
Obviously you can draw these conclusions from the preseason and any attempt to argue otherwise is just spin.
Seriously peoples, enough of taking preseason seriously. Means nothing. Thankfully real games about to start.
I don't know Marvin for the most part this weeks games kind of fall in line with everything being said.
The Seahawks ultimate strength is game planning as is Richard Sherman's. We are more likely to get smoked by unknowns than top shelf Vets. The QB's that have torched us were mostly unknowns, the RB's also and the receivers that have torched Sherman were also mostly unknowns. When there is game film it is a different story all together.
In this game against the Radiers we pretty obviously have no information on that team. I think there is also some level of expectation going in. The Raiders knew who they were facing and played up to the challenge. The Seahawks really had no idea of personnel as well as no reason to care and fairly obviously under estimated what the Raiders and Carr (SP) were capable of. In that regard we got caught with our pants down but this is where the preseason truly has no meaning. It's not like this is going to send us back to the drawing board scratching our heads wondering what the hell went wrong.
The Niners on the other hand had their best performance of the preseason and only real decent showing. The problem is unless you plan on starting Gabbert, it is meaningless because your starting unit never showed a single thing all pre-season and Gabbert right now looks better than Kaep.
It does help to bolster your confidence about depth but that is really about it.
This really is why preseason has no meaning. You still want to see something from your starting unit like we did even in that game when RW scored in 1:35 and was perfect but a single bad performance really doesn't mean anything. There is still things that can be learned in a meaningless loss. If your starting unit looks horrible all preseason then you should be worried. You guys look worse than last preseason and the problems are easy to point to in the O-line and QB.
You guys have a big test next week in Dallas. If you can't beat Dallas then you are in big trouble. Most have predicted them to be the worst in the NFC. You lose next week and nobody will be saying, dang, Dallas looks good.
If Seattle were to lose against GB that would not be nearly as much the case. Most would credit GB for being everything they thought they could be, Sure we would drop in the power rankings but the theme of that game would be how good GB looks not like you guys were the theme (talking nationally) would be how bad the Niners look.
Most important thing you said there is the bolded.
Are you seriously trying to explain away why Seattle had trouble with the Raiders? Really? Don't bother. I already know why. No prep. Same for all teams in all preseason games. Run vanilla schemes with no game planning.
As I've been saying from the beginning. PRESEASON MEANS NOTHING. The only people who say otherwise are in the media or fans who are looking to make a point about a team they love or a team they hate. That's it. Niners starting O has struggled all Preseason? Uh, they marched down the field on their first possession had third and 1 at the 10 or so when they brought in a RB who has since been released who couldn't get a yard on 2 attempts. Vs Denver they were Lloyd losing the ball in the sun and a missed field goal away from scoring. In SD, they had problems. No question....particularly in pass protection. 4 possessions and out halfway through the second while most teams played the starters into the 3rd.
All you can really judge in preseason is individual matchups. Even then, coaches put their players into positions with no help just to see how they perform. They are looking at how players perform in those circumstances. That is NOT in any way how they coach the regular season.
It means even less when it comes to starters, particularly on vet teams. Vet starters know this stuff doesn't count. They don't give 100% effort.
Last night in Oakland, the Raiders were playing to make a point to themselves against the SB champions. Seattle was looking to get through the last game without any injuries and get to the regular season.
Preseason. Means. Nothing.