TDOTSEAHAWK
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Went from an above average one dimensional pass rusher and took a year to develop into a versatile and dangerous linebacker. What a great job of developing him by our coaches. Kid can ball.
seedhawk":1vk5xmvi said:But.....But.............the announcers still don't call his name enough!![]()
I have to disagree. IMHO it's Wagner. No doubt in my mind.pehawk":1extoyqm said:I think you could make a case that Irvin is the most valuable LB. Not saying that's for sure the case, but an argument can be made. He plays his position so, so, so well.
sutz":3roafxhr said:I have to disagree. IMHO it's Wagner. No doubt in my mind.pehawk":3roafxhr said:I think you could make a case that Irvin is the most valuable LB. Not saying that's for sure the case, but an argument can be made. He plays his position so, so, so well.
pehawk":i8pri6fo said:I think you could make a case that Irvin is the most valuable LB. Not saying that's for sure the case, but an argument can be made. He plays his position so, so, so well.
Well, a big part of why I support Wags on this issue is that he makes the calls. He's the guy setting the D and getting players in place. Irvin is less of a 'hands on leader' in that respect, I think.pehawk":vzww5dme said:sutz":vzww5dme said:I have to disagree. IMHO it's Wagner. No doubt in my mind.pehawk":vzww5dme said:I think you could make a case that Irvin is the most valuable LB. Not saying that's for sure the case, but an argument can be made. He plays his position so, so, so well.
I'm inclined to agree with you. But often I wonder how much Wags benefits from Irvin never, ever, ever, ever not containing. It was just earlier this year where Pete said Wags should always lead the team in tackles, that's what the defense dictates.
Obviously you have to say its Wagner. But, I'm not so sure Wagner looks all-pro without Irvin. Just a hunch.
I do know I wanted to, and still want to, bite the foreheads of others who dog him. They probably aren't understanding his role. If Irvin has a GREAT game, you'd never bnea able to tell by looking at the boxscore. Days like today make me happy because at least it shuts up the mouthbreathers.