Lynch on the 2025 Hall of Fame ballot

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I'd love to see Marshawn in, but I think he's borderline. He could really have used a couple more good years.

I hope Matthews never gets in. One of the dirtiest players I've ever watched.
 

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I'd love to see Marshawn in, but I think he's borderline. He could really have used a couple more good years.

I hope Matthews never gets in. One of the dirtiest players I've ever watched.
A couple more good years....or one more carry in the SB and retire with 2 rings.
 

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Hard to see him as a first ballot. I'll be rooting for him, because I loved him and thought he was the heart and soul of our offense for several years, putting everything he had into every carry, not to mention his receiving and pass protection skills.

Hope he makes it. If not, he should make it in next time.
 

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I think he's got a good shot. Besides winning a Super Bowl, the speculation is almost universal that he would have had another if he'd just been given the ball. That's the sort of impact and reputation that's hard to ignore. Plus he has one of the greatest runs in NFL history. Two of them, actually.
 

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Anybody who knows football and watched him play a lot in Seattle knows he's underrated. We had stupidly predictable play calling and offensive formations and he STILL got it done at a high level for a long time. DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS WHEN THE DEFENSE KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE DOING?!

He's definitely a Hall-of-Famer.
 

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He's well recognized and liked nationally because of his TV appearances too. It seems like everything is a popularity contest these days and if he stays in public view, I think he has a good shot.
 

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He'll probably have to wait a little bit. His acceptance speech would a lot of fun.

Alexander deserves in more regardless and he hasn't picked up any traction.
 

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I think lynch will beat the odds because of beastquake 1 and mini bq also he is so well liked
I hope matthews rots in hell but other than that they are some pretty good names
 

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I'm actually with him on his opinion so pass the pipe.
Alexander had an all-world O-line most of his career, and only tried hard in the red zone. Marshawn Lynch never once had an O-line in Seattle that would qualify as "great", and he gave it his all EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY.

I'm happy to pass you the pipe as long as you realize you're wrong. Marshawn probably would have had a 35-TD season behind our early-mid-2000s O-line.
 

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Luke should easily be 1st ballot

Eli should get in eventually, but he'll probably get in 1st which I don't agree with

Shawn should also get in eventually, but I don't know if he will (certainly has a better claim than edgerrin James off the top of my head, unless it's literally just the numbers)

Vinatieri maybe 30 years down the road, 1st ballot would be a joke, but he should at some point in a SUPER weak year

Clay isn't even in the discussion, he's a ring of honor packer equivalent kind of guy


But even with the early retirement, I don't even need to look up the accomplishment of kuechly to say he's day one.

People love to talk about Ray Lewis/urlacher/zach Thomas etc

But I take Luke, Bobby, Patrick Willis, Navarro bowman over those 3 all day.

And that's not a slight


PS: anyone who thinks Shaun deserves in over lynch, or the hall PERIOD, is out of their god damned minds.
 

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Luke should easily be 1st ballot

Eli should get in eventually, but he'll probably get in 1st which I don't agree with

Shawn should also get in eventually, but I don't know if he will (certainly has a better claim than edgerrin James off the top of my head, unless it's literally just the numbers)

Vinatieri maybe 30 years down the road, 1st ballot would be a joke, but he should at some point in a SUPER weak year

Clay isn't even in the discussion, he's a ring of honor packer equivalent kind of guy


But even with the early retirement, I don't even need to look up the accomplishment of kuechly to say he's day one.

People love to talk about Ray Lewis/urlacher/zach Thomas etc

But I take Luke, Bobby, Patrick Willis, Navarro bowman over those 3 all day.

And that's not a slight


PS: anyone who thinks Shaun deserves in over lynch, or the hall PERIOD, is out of their god damned minds.
I'm not so sure I agree with the "easily" part. His stats are great, but he had a lot of years with frankly a lot of crappy tacklers around him. When you don't have serious competition for a lot of tackles, it's easier to be a huge tackle numbers kind of guy. Whereas Bobby for much of his career here, had major competition to "win" tackling first by comparison and still put up great numbers. Not knocking Kuechly, he's great, but I don't think he's as great as your post makes him out to be.

Just my two cents.
 

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Alexander had an all-world O-line most of his career, and only tried hard in the red zone. Marshawn Lynch never once had an O-line in Seattle that would qualify as "great", and he gave it his all EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY.

I'm happy to pass you the pipe as long as you realize you're wrong. Marshawn probably would have had a 35-TD season behind our early-mid-2000s O-line.
Shaun typically wasn't even touched until like 2.5 yards down field.

Lynch was the most frequently hit rb in the back field several years here.

If you put lynch on those seahawks teams, and Alexander on lynchs seahawks teams, wonder who has more success

I'm going to be very clear here, Alexander was obviously an above average player....... That being said he's the most overrated seahawk in team history, literally.

The guy was afraid of contact ffs, unless a td was in sight.

He would have been an all time great if he always ran like he did in the red zone.... Or gave an effort receiving..... Or pass blocking....

Alexander had the greatest left side in nfl history, a pro bowl center, multiple pro bowl qb, 1st team all pro FB


Putting him above marshawn is a joke, and I'm inclined to think there's some nefarious reasoning behind it, not necessarily here, but seahawks Fandom in general
 

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I'm not so sure I agree with the "easily" part. His stats are great, but he had a lot of years with frankly a lot of crappy tacklers around him. When you don't have serious competition for a lot of tackles, it's easier to be a huge tackle numbers kind of guy. Whereas Bobby for much of his career here, had major competition to "win" tackling first by comparison and still put up great numbers. Not knocking Kuechly, he's great, but I don't think he's as great as your post makes him out to be.

Just my two cents.
If I was arguing from a statistical standpoint he'd be at a disadvantage because of retiring early.

He was an all pro every year (5x1st team, 2x2nd)in the league besides 21 year old rookie season. 7 all pros should get you in day one even if it took 20 years.

Kuechly not getting in would be a travesty, and it's not because he had a bunch of tackles funneled to him lol

The 4th leading tackler of all time is Donnie edwards, and he retired in 2008 not some weird old school shit.

Nobody is claiming dudes like him should get in
 
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If you have anything to back these statements up, I would be interested in seeing them.
Cursory search and I couldn't find it. I want to say it was pff and comparing just their two best statistical seasons, but it was a while ago so you can ignore that specifically.

That being said, I shouldn't need to source an article that was put out when lynch was playing over 5 years ago, to tell you that lynch averaged more yards after contact than Alexander, and that Alexander had an EXPONENTIALLY better supporting cast around him on offense.

Here I'll give you something of the same gist


"Lynch's career yards after contact (5,645) and broken tackles (602) should blow your mind."

Those are 2016 numbers mind you courtesy of pff.... seeing how Shaun ran for 9450 TOTAL, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out
 

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Cursory search and I couldn't find it. I want to say it was pff and comparing just their two best statistical seasons, but it was a while ago so you can ignore that specifically.

That being said, I shouldn't need to source an article that was put out when lynch was playing over 5 years ago, to tell you that lynch averaged more yards after contact than Alexander, and that Alexander had an EXPONENTIALLY better supporting cast around him on offense.

Here I'll give you something of the same gist


"Lynch's career yards after contact (5,645) and broken tackles (602) should blow your mind."

Those are 2016 numbers mind you courtesy of pff.... seeing how Shaun ran for 9450 TOTAL, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out
To be fair, Lynch ran for 0 yards before contact. My man was looking for that smack
 
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