Jordon Rooney on Damar Hamlin Video

[ivotuk]

Jordon Rooney on Damar Hamlin: Things 'moving in a positive direction' as of Wed. morning

Jordon Rooney on Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin: Things 'moving in a positive direction' as of Wed. morning

 

[Seahawker]

Great news. The Bill's really know how to circle the wagons- prayers & support.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

 

[Hawkpower]

This "football is too dangerous" narrative gaining momentum today is silly for a few reasons:

A: We dont know that a football specific injury even caused his situation
B: There are typically more cardiac events in other sports (basketball, soccer, baseball in kids) than football
C. Football has been very proactive in recent years to reduce the overall incidents of damaging hits, and while not perfect, there isnt some additional awareness that needs to be shined on the sport

 

[LastRideOut]

This "football is too dangerous" narrative gaining momentum today is silly for a few reasons:

A: We dont know that a football specific injury even caused his situation
B: There are typically more cardiac events in other sports (basketball, soccer, baseball in kids) than football
C. Football has been very proactive in recent years to reduce the overall incidents of damaging hits, and while not perfect, there isnt some additional awareness that needs to be shined on the sport

Uhhh he didn't say it was too dangerous. He said it was dangerous, which is a fact of life. Football is a gladiator sport. It is somewhat safer today than in years past but it never will be completely safe, like driving to work is. Cars can be only so safe. Same for football. Not sure where you got the "football is too dangerous" narrative from. A straw man argument perhaps?

All sports, really, carry some risk of injury. Football though, does have an element of danger in that brain injury is more common in the sport than others. But that's another discussion because it isn't what happened to Hamlin.

 

[Hawkpower]

Uhhh he didn't say it was too dangerous. He said it was dangerous, which is a fact of life. Football is a gladiator sport. It is somewhat safer today than in years past but it never will be completely safe, like driving to work is. Cars can be only so safe. Same for football. Not sure where you got the "football is too dangerous" narrative from. A straw man argument perhaps?

All sports, really, carry some risk of injury. Football though, does have an element of danger in that brain injury is more common in the sport than others. But that's another discussion because it isn't what happened to Hamlin.

I wasnt talking about what Joe SAID, I was referring to what he had to respond to due to the narrative out there today
There are quite a few articles out there (including a long segment on the View today) about football's dangers
My point (and it sounds like you agree) is that this particular situation shouldnt be a gateway to that discussion since it wasnt a contact injury, at least not to the head anyway. Cardiac incidents are higher in cardio sports tbh

Here's an example

 

[Crizilla]

This "football is too dangerous" narrative gaining momentum today is silly for a few reasons:

A: We dont know that a football specific injury even caused his situation
B: There are typically more cardiac events in other sports (basketball, soccer, baseball in kids) than football
C. Football has been very proactive in recent years to reduce the overall incidents of damaging hits, and while not perfect, there isnt some additional awareness that needs to be shined on the sport

The NFL IS getting too dangerous hence why concussions still happening and now a cardiac arrest. This is a very serious issue. It may be time to move on, lads. It's been fun. Lots of memories. Lots of pure joy. Lots of heartbreak. It was a great ride. But full force tackle collision football may be over. The NFL world will never be the same. Us 12's will never be the same. Simple as that. Time to go back to baseball anyway honestly.

 

[RiverDog]

The NFL IS getting too dangerous hence why concussions still happening and now a cardiac arrest. This is a very serious issue. It may be time to move on, lads. It's been fun. Lots of memories. Lots of pure joy. Lots of heartbreak. It was a great ride. But full force tackle collision football may be over. The NFL world will never be the same. Us 12's will never be the same. Simple as that. Time to go back to baseball anyway honestly.

According to initial reports, Hamlin suffered from a condition known as commotio cordis. It's much more common in baseball than it is in football. I'm not saying that football is safer than baseball, but if you're looking for a poster child to hang your "football is getting too dangerous" sign on, you need to be looking for someone other than Damar Hamlin.

 

[Donn2390]

The NFL IS getting too dangerous hence why concussions still happening and now a cardiac arrest. This is a very serious issue. It may be time to move on, lads. It's been fun. Lots of memories. Lots of pure joy. Lots of heartbreak. It was a great ride. But full force tackle collision football may be over. The NFL world will never be the same. Us 12's will never be the same. Simple as that. Time to go back to baseball anyway honestly.

All of the money football produces annually, it will NEVER go away. You think a multi billion dollar industry is just going to close up shop and go away? Not going to happen, this will all be forgotten and in the rear view mirror very shortly.

 

[ivotuk]

Mark Schlereth said that there couldn't have been a better spot for Hamlin to have this incident, because the NFL game has so much, on hand medical support.

"He got CPR within seconds...not minutes which is likely to happen elsewhere, but seconds."

That's the difference between living life to it's fullest, and being a vegetable. I've had a CPR/1st Aid card since 1979, and was amazed at how fast they identified, and addressed the issue. It's not easy to tell the difference between barely breathing, and no breathing at all, and it can be difficult to identify the difference between a weak pulse, and no pulse. Every human body is different.

The BEST NEWS though is this: "Bills announce safety Damar Hamlin has shown 'remarkable improvement', 'appears to be neurologically intact'"
NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday that Hamlin opened his eyes on Wednesday night, is responsive and has been gripping the hands of those close to him.

Hamlin has been hospitalized since Monday night, when after making a tackle in the first quarter, he got to his feet before collapsing on the field. According to the Bills, his heartbeat was restored on the field before he was transported in an ambulance to the UCMC for further testing and treatment. After Hamlin was taken to the hospital, the NFL postponed the Bills-Bengals game.

Bills announce safety Damar Hamlin has shown 'remarkable improvement', 'appears to be neurologically intact'

The Buffalo Bills announced Thursday morning that safety Damar Hamlin "has shown remarkable improvement over the past 24 hours" and "appears to be neurologically intact," per the doctors caring for Hamlin at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center.

www.nfl.com

 

[Aircrew]

The game of football has, for the most part, remained unchanged for decades. What has changed is the size, speed and strength of the players. Given the nature of the game and the men who choose to play it, injuries of all types will continue to be an unfortunate byproduct of the sport. Hopefully advances in equipment help mitigate severe injuries, but it really just comes with the territory.

 

[Crizilla]

All of the money football produces annually, it will NEVER go away. You think a multi billion dollar industry is just going to close up shop and go away? Not going to happen, this will all be forgotten and in the rear view mirror very shortly.

Something will happen. Bigger pads maybe. But something will happen. People said the same thing you did 20 years ago and look at all the safety increases they've done. Not enough has been done though. Do we really need a team sport where people are running into each other full speed? Injuries ruin games and it ruins the fun factor. NFL has gone nuts protecting the QB's it's time to protect other players too. Increase the chest pad protection. Simple as. Put bubble wrap in there whatever you need to do get it done.

 

[HomerJHawk]

I've noticed over the years many players are playing just a bit softer : taking the yardage they'll give you rather than push ahead for those extra 3 yards while risking taking a big hit; running a guy out of bounds rather than going for the kill shot. Many are still playing hard as nails, but I also see some not. Thats fine with me and I don't think the sport itself is getting soft. Its just many guys know the risks and don't see themselves needing to pick up those extra yards when they've already got the first down and they've moved the chains. Not at the risk of taking an unnecessary big hit.
Good on them.

 

[ivotuk]

I'm a firm believer in the Shaun Alexander" running back method.

Shaun would run hard until he got tackled, then let his body go limp. RBs have a short career, and when you have a running back as valuable and talented as SA was, you preserve them as long as possible.

 

[ivotuk]

 

[Hockey Guy]

Mark Schlereth said that there couldn't have been a better spot for Hamlin to have this incident, because the NFL game has so much, on hand medical support.

The NFL deserves kudos for all the protocols in place to deal with an incident like this but I'd also add an NHL arena to the list of places where you could expect a positive outcome from an incident like this.

NHL teams have dealt with stuff like this & other very serious life-threatening conditions successfully over the years & I know the leagues have worked together on these emergency plans & protocols.

 

[Seahawker]

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