49er brass taking heat for sunk cost in the Lance fiasco

[FrodosFinger]

 

[LastRideOut]

At least they had Trey compete, and not annoint him the starter. I give him credit for that, and for admtting it wasn't going to work out and cutting bait.

It was a bad decision to trade up and take him but every coach/GM has made their mistakes. Including JS/PC. McDowell with the whole ATV thing. Jamal Adams. To a lesser extent, Graham. Percy Harvin too.

They seemed to have hit on Brock but I'm not sold yet as we haven't seen Brock carry a team when the D isn't playing up to their standard. Let's see that.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Jerruh personally made that trade without, I read, even without informing McCarthy and Dak. The trade cost them more than Cooper Rush plus the fourth, reinforcing Lance’s need to be treated as more than he should naturally be, that is a third string getting the scraps of scout team.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

At least they had Trey compete, and not annoint him the starter. I give him credit for that, and for admtting it wasn't going to work out and cutting bait.

It was a bad decision to trade up and take him but every coach/GM has made their mistakes. Including JS/PC. McDowell with the whole ATV thing. Jamal Adams. To a lesser extent, Graham. Percy Harvin too.

They seemed to have hit on Brock but I'm not sold yet as we haven't seen Brock carry a team when the D isn't playing up to their standard. Let's see that.

Tbf we did see that in the Raiders game.

 

[Biscanebay12]

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Dude seriously move on from the Lance thing.

 

[94Smith]

They seemed to have hit on Brock but I'm not sold yet as we haven't seen Brock carry a team when the D isn't playing up to their standard. Let's see that.

Saw it 49ers vs Raiders 2022

 

[94Smith]

Also wondering when Frodo will post his last Lance thread. That dead horse has been beat to a pulp.

 

[onanygivensunday]

That dead horse has been beat to a pulp.

YUM... tenderized horsemeat makes the best tacos.

 

[Boohman14]

Every team picks a bust at some point. Time to move on the the regular season anyway and talk about relevant topics.

 

[Lagartixa]

I have to disagree with the first post in this thread. I think a fourth-round pick is shockingly great return for a guy who has played 420 snaps of football since high school, most of that for a non-FBS college team, and who does not show any signs of being anywhere close to being a potential NFL starter.

Think of it this way: how furious would many of us be if it had been the Seahawks who traded away a fourth-round pick to get Lance?

Yes, the Gold Diggers screwed up badly in giving up the equivalent of the first and 19th pick in the 2021 draft (according to the Chase Stuart chart, which estimates the on-the-field value expected from a pick, as opposed to the Jimmy Johnson chart, which estimates how much teams are likely to value the picks in trades) to get a guy who was unlikely to succeed in the NFL at all, much less in the championship window in which the Gold Diggers found themselves at the time of the 2021 draft. But that's in the past. It's similar to the Seahawks' disaster of a trade for Jamal Adams and subsequent compounding of the mistake via a giant contract extension that it would have been difficult for any safety to justify, even if that safety had remained healthy and played more than in parts of 25 out of 50 regular-season games after the trade.
Yeah, the Seahawks and Gold Diggers could have been a lot better off if they hadn't made those mistakes, but all either team can do is move forward and do its best to succeed despite having made those mistakes. And both look fairly strong right now despite their respective colossal roster-management fsckups.

Given what we've seen of Lance, it looks to me like the Gold Diggers completely fleeced the Cowboys in getting a fourth-round pick for Lance at this point. The Cowboys could have waited a few days and picked up Lance off waivers for free, or they could have just stuck with the three QBs they already had, all of which appear to be better than Lance.

 

[Aircrew]

Dude seriously move on from the Lance thing.

Totally. So the 49ers whiffed on a quarterback, not the first time a team has done that. And as far as what they spent to get him, it's best to consider that an investment at the position since they have their guy in Purdy. I think it's actually commendable that the team moved on from him after it was apparent he wasn't their guy, cut bait and turn the page.

 

[Vesuve]

Every team picks a bust at some point.

and this is SF's bust.

Very big one and a foolish move.

But it's over.....time to move on.

I'm a Seahawk fan. I think it's funny.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Every team picks a bust at some point. Time to move on the the regular season anyway and talk about relevant topics.

You're asking that from a group that has 7,335 threads about a former player who has been gone since March of 2022.

 

[FrodosFinger]

At least they had Trey compete, and not annoint him the starter. I give him credit for that, and for admtting it wasn't going to work out and cutting bait.

It was a bad decision to trade up and take him but every coach/GM has made their mistakes. Including JS/PC. McDowell with the whole ATV thing. Jamal Adams. To a lesser extent, Graham. Percy Harvin too.

They seemed to have hit on Brock but I'm not sold yet as we haven't seen Brock carry a team when the D isn't playing up to their standard. Let's see that.

Wrong wrong and wrong. Whiffing on a first round pick happens all the time. Trading 3 firsts and a third, then trading said player for a fourth, 3 years later is uncharted waters. The Lance trade is literally the worst trade up in the history of the league. Lynch doesn’t get a pass on this

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

 

[Biscanebay12]

Wrong wrong and wrong. Whiffing on a first round pick happens all the time. Trading 3 firsts and a third, then trading said player for a fourth, 3 years later is uncharted waters. The Lance trade is literally the worst trade up in the history of the league. Lynch doesn’t get a pass on this

Dude we get it, the entire NFL fan base gets it, the 49ers organization gets it. You on the other hand are at the point of embarrassment with this.

Funny I don't see any post from you about Jamal Adams

 

[LastRideOut]

Wrong wrong and wrong. Whiffing on a first round pick happens all the time. Trading 3 firsts and a third, then trading said player for a fourth, 3 years later is uncharted waters. The Lance trade is literally the worst trade up in the history of the league. Lynch doesn’t get a pass on this

Lynch wouldn't get a pass if he hadn't constructed the roster he has now. I will concede however, that quite a bit of both lines were built with high 1st round picks.

But, had Lynch made this trade and Niners had a losing season every year since, then yeah he would have been canned. But, because of the roster and how it was built, he pretty much gets a pass from the local press and fanbase.

If they struggle this year, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

 

[projectorfreak]

Some teams make their living getting 1st round QB busts every 3 years or so , They don't grow on trees so surprising for them , yes but totally unexpected to ever happen, not really
To flame out in a fiery death spiral head on into oncoming traffic school bus full o kids
Well that's just good fun lol

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Any time the Niners fail at something, it's very good fun.

 

[Marvin49]

Lynch wouldn't get a pass if he hadn't constructed the roster he has now. I will concede however, that quite a bit of both lines were built with high 1st round picks.

But, had Lynch made this trade and Niners had a losing season every year since, then yeah he would have been canned. But, because of the roster and how it was built, he pretty much gets a pass from the local press and fanbase.

If they struggle this year, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

?

Bosa and Armstead fit that bill, but nobody else does.

OL:
Trade, 2nd round pick, UDFA, 4th round pick, 5th round pick

DL:
1st round, 1st round, FA, FA/2nd round pick