Damn....Rams just traded for Miles Garrett

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How is it bright? They have NO qb, they just list their best player, and get the equivalent of two 2nd rounders and a guy with 7 sacks a year ago. But Verse does a great job of running his mouth and not really affecting the game.
The Browns went 5-12 last year with Garrett who at 30 is a player that was making north of $40 million per year and not wanting anything to do with the Browns is not in the future plans get what you can and move on.

It is being reported that the Browns had no intention of trading Garrett till the Rams agreed to involve Verse
 

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I said it in another thread, but Stafford has a good long term track record of playing . Not like Purdy 😣

I get it, but Stafford is 38. My point is that all in moves with a 38 year old QB and that QB gets hurt...

...ouch.

Brock is only 26 and has quite a few more years ahead of him.

I'm not selling it as a bad move as lord know I'd be ecstatic if the Niners had traded for him, but its a bit risky kinda betting on this being the year. One thing can derail you.
 

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The Browns went 5-12 last year with Garrett who at 30 is a player that was making north of $40 million per year and not wanting anything to do with the Browns is not in the future plans get what you can and move on.

It is being reported that the Browns had no intention of trading Garrett till the Rams agreed to involve Verse
Verse is fine, but I don’t think he’s a difference maker. Lots of hype little actual results. He’s no Anderson
 

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Just remember Rams just added Myles Garrett at the cost of Jared Verse and 3 future players.

Yet Seahawks also have homegrown a trump card. No one in the NFC West got to face Rylie Mills who might have the potential ceiling to be a poor man’s JJ Watt (75-80%) or a player similar to Zach Allen. On his own and if you were asking him to be starter, it might not seem like much but in the formulated rotations that Macdonald scheme up its going to be a much more tremendous asset as we saw in the SB.

So while on the face, Rams getting Garrett seems they are going to roll to the SB.

I think Seahawks are still on par with them, they wouldnt have made all these moves, spent all this money, and bargain their future for nothing if they didn’t feel inferior in some way.

Frankly, I think talent wise in all three phrases the NFC West besides the Cards are all pretty equal or close to each other at full strength. The difference will come down to coaching, culture, and injuries.

Macdonald might have solved Shanahan.

Ram’s culture seems rather scrambled because they are a reflection of their coaching and they keep shipping off their young players that step up as leaders or letting guys like Cooper Kupp go.
 

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I'm not selling it as a bad move as lord know I'd be ecstatic if the Niners had traded for him, but its a bit risky kinda betting on this being the year. One thing can derail you.
Not sure I’d be ecstatic if we traded Bosa and a 1,2 and 3 which is likely what it would have taken
 

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I get it, but Stafford is 38. My point is that all in moves with a 38 year old QB and that QB gets hurt...

...ouch.

Brock is only 26 and has quite a few more years ahead of him.

I'm not selling it as a bad move as lord know I'd be ecstatic if the Niners had traded for him, but its a bit risky kinda betting on this being the year. One thing can derail you.

That's how I feel about it as well. They definitely got better, and the goal of the offseason is to make your roster better. So, mission accomplished there. But one bad ankle sprain to the wrong player, and there goes your all-in plan. You need a lot of breaks to go your way to navigate that 20-game gauntlet.
 

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Well they have improved on paper, let's see chemistry, secondly, they we all play 4 games against arguably the best teams in the league that can make or break your season, best defenses I think across the board in the division. Cards are just two steps behind the rest but on defense not slouches.

We also have guys as noted above that have been redshirted basically, they know the system and where not being talked about buy the spurts and Mediots we have seen in flashes these guys play. Think there could be a few guys stepping up that have not been accounted for.

Just wondering how McVag is thinking of protecting a 38-year-old QB against just the divisions gauntlet of defense's on top of the Eagles, Chargers, Broncos. I think they are on a last ride and as stated one bad fall or twisted sack and it could be over.
 

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Apparently Aaron Donald is considering playing next season for the Rams because of this deal.
 

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This was such a brilliant move, its wild:

-Because of the money the Browns had to pay/eat, the Rams have Garrett for something like 3 years/33 million per year
-Here in a year or two, Verse will probably be paid that - while he is a good young player, he's nowhere near Garrett - and while our pass rush was good last year, it also disappeared at times. Verse's missed tackles were also really bad
-It is possible that Stafford retires after this season - if that happens, we can afford to sign Puka, Turner and probably two of the four FA OL

We can also easily restructure some deals to bring back some of those guys if Stafford does come back for another year

And love or hate Simpson the player, McVay wanted him, so for now we are going to assume that we have our QB of the future, which is what unlocked moving that 2027 first round pick.

So its possible that we win the Super Bowl this year, Stafford rides off into the sunset, we re-sign most of the FAs, and Simpson steps into the best roster around a QB in the league.

Just outstanding work by Snead here.

And there's not really a precedent for it - players as good as him don't typically get traded, and not to the team who was already the betting favorite.
The Browns are not eating any of Garrett's contract. That would be insane. They are taking a cap hit, but that's not the same thing. Garrett's affordable for the next few years because his contract was restructured to that the cap hit extends to 4 voidable years from 2031 to 2034. The Rams will have to pay for Garrett, but it's structured in a way that makes it fit under the cap.
 

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I guess the U.S. Treasury and the folks at the state capitol in Sacramento hit jackpot. For Garrett's sake, being traded to Chicago would have been better, but I guess Arby's sabotaged that (if the Beef and Cheddars sandwiches story is true). Oh well, there's always GoFundMe if he needs.



 

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I'm confused. "Pissed" McVay was assured to be exceedingly happy, excited, and supportive of the Ty Simpson pick. So why wasn't he looking "pissed" yesterday when they got Garrett?!

 

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The Seahawks don't have to get into an arms race. You won the superbowl, the other teams are trying to catch them

This is a new season and while making a trade to upgrade the team is not a must, but if it's possible to trade for an game changing player then we should do it.

Trading for Jeffery Simmons would give the Seahawks an elite defensive line. So I would be good with trading a 1st round pick for a proven All-Pro defensive lineman.
 

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As far as the Clams go, IF Stafford goes down, they're toast. So, a lot of this has to do with health.
I think that is true of most teams but it would indeed impact the Rams a lot more than others. The Rams' offensive ceiling/floor is very high because of Stafford and it has come at a price to their defense. Stafford is the reason Nacua has huge numbers, he makes good receivers even better and average receivers good, I have admired his play since his early years in Detroit, smart as whip, fantastic arm, accurate as it gets with LONG experience. Garrett and others have helped the Rams' chances and certainly improved the offrense/defense balance on paper but it is a always dicey business when investing heavy to a comoponent on defense. I honestly don't make that trade, I would have spread that into depth. The Rams lost 2 games to the Seahawks because late in the game they could not convert 3rd downs when they had a lead and after using a BUNCH of clock down by 4 LA could not close the deal on 3rd or 4th down. Seattle had something to do with that, the defense really tightened up in those places throughout the game but LA made FGs early and Riq Woolen made sure he left his mark too You are right, Stafford out puts the Rams out but unless his wife bites his groin by accident or one of his little kids smacks him in the leg with a real baseball bat he will start and finish every game. It is EXTREMELY difficult to get to Stafford before he makes a quality throw.
 

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If you were the betting favorite, why did you need Garrett..................... Inquiring minds want a no BS repeonse :)

Easy answer Rams were scared of what the Seahawks were bringing and they had not even peaked last year as a team and still won it all.

Why wouldn't a team try to get better?

The Rams/Seahawks games were all a coin flip - its possible that we come out on top next year even without adding McDuffie and Garrett. The Rams have a ton of young talent too, so that not peaking thing goes both ways - Turner, Fiske, Young, Corum and several others are all young ascending players.

The Seahawks won those games and won it all - but there is absolutely no part of any of those games that made the Rams 'scared' of the Seahawks. Those were the first two times the McVay/Stafford pairing lost to Seattle and they hung 64 points on that defense, in Seattle, in those losses. There is absolutely zero fear.

Its more just about being able to withstand randomness, injuries and I'm sure there will be some surprise great teams as there always are.
 
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