Pick 35: Nick Emmanwori

Scout said:

Emmanwori doesn't have to start or play a lot year 1. You have Love, Bryant, Spoon, Jobe and Riq which is the best defensive back group probably in the division and maybe even the NFC. But when Emmanwori is asked to be a robber or play in a high zone in certain packages his athletic gifts will shine. This is because Emmanwori will not have to do so much as the rest of the Seahawks secondary can take care of business with their respective assignments. Emmanwori is going into an ideal situation where he doesn't have to be the savior or do it all on the backend. Mac will used him in specialized packages to maximize his talents to roam on the backend as a disruptor.

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Lagartixa said:

I'm not sure who or what the "draft chart genius" is, but it's irrelevant. Whether you use charts like the updated JJ chart (roughly how teams value picks) or the updated Chase Stuart chart (roughly what picks are actually worth in expected talent), the fact remains that the Seahawks paid first-round capital for a player who was, by consensus of all 32 NFL teams, not worth a first-round pick.
That's far from the bargain @Hawkpower suggested by ridiculing @MontanaHawk05 for supposedly not liking first-round value in the second round, and I was responding to that. What @Hawkpower ignored was that the Seahawks gave up first-round capital for Emmanwori, and that the 32 NFL teams had decided Emmanwori wasn't a first-round player.
As I said, the truth looks like a second-round-level player taken with first-round draft capital. As I said, that's not the end of the world. However, it is pretty much the opposite of what @Hawkpower had suggested it was, and that's why I replied. Instead of first-round talent for second-round capital, as @Hawkpower had suggested the result of the trade and pick was, it was actually second-round talent (by consensus of all 32 NFL teams) for first-round capital.

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MontanaHawk05 said:

And neither Kam nor Sherman were immediate starters themselves, so that's not a huge problem. Then again, they weren't high second-rounders.

Emmanwori is going into a well-established defense that knows what it's doing, though, and already has a couple of world-beaters back there. Schematically and fundamentally I have little doubt that Mike knows what to do with the guy.

I'm still just bugged, though. I certainly hope I'm proven wrong, because the guy's got HoF potential athletically. But the first thing in my mind when we drafted him was Jamal Adams, ridiculous talent but freelanced and made it about himself too much, and it let a lot of big plays through. In the end, people wanted him gone as much as they'd wanted him here just a couple years before.

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chris98251 said:

When you grade players as 1st round talent there are only 32 slots, that does not mean there are only 32 first round grades, if the talent pool is deep you can get 1st round talent well into the second round, and it will cascade, the reverse is also true, some years you may grade players and only have 15 of them marked as 1st round talent, but still draft 17 more in that round.

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SoulfishHawk said:

This kid just feels like a huge Seahawk type pick. VERY fast, tackling machine (like Bobby Boucher) and attitude on the field.

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MontanaHawk05 said:

And neither Kam nor Sherman were immediate starters themselves, so that's not a huge problem. Then again, they weren't high second-rounders.

Emmanwori is going into a well-established defense that knows what it's doing, though, and already has a couple of world-beaters back there. Schematically and fundamentally I have little doubt that Mike knows what to do with the guy.

I'm still just bugged, though. I certainly hope I'm proven wrong, because the guy's got HoF potential athletically. But the first thing in my mind when we drafted him was Jamal Adams, ridiculous talent but freelanced and made it about himself too much, and it let a lot of big plays through. In the end, people wanted him gone as much as they'd wanted him here just a couple years before.

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FLSeahawk said:

Don’t know if it’s been said but MM used Kyle Hamilton around 30% of defensive plays his rookie year and around 70% year 2, and he was a 1st round pick. I think the percentages will be pretty similar. He won’t be called on a lot year but should be a great situational piece, I’m excited to have him on the team!

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Mistashoesta said:

I love to hear it

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FLSeahawk said:

Don’t know if it’s been said but MM used Kyle Hamilton around 30% of defensive plays his rookie year and around 70% year 2, and he was a 1st round pick. I think the percentages will be pretty similar. He won’t be called on a lot year but should be a great situational piece, I’m excited to have him on the team!

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