Pick 35: Nick Emmanwori

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Precisely.

Having Spoon, Jobe, Riq, Love, Bryant on the field with Emmanwori is the chef's kiss. Mac really can do so much on the backend with such talent.
 

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Emmanwori doesn't have to start or play a lot year 1. You have Love, Bryant, Spoon, Jobe and Riq which is the best defensive back group probably in the division and maybe even the NFC. But when Emmanwori is asked to be a robber or play in a high zone in certain packages his athletic gifts will shine. This is because Emmanwori will not have to do so much as the rest of the Seahawks secondary can take care of business with their respective assignments. Emmanwori is going into an ideal situation where he doesn't have to be the savior or do it all on the backend. Mac will used him in specialized packages to maximize his talents to roam on the backend as a disruptor.
And neither Kam nor Sherman were immediate starters themselves, so that's not a huge problem. Then again, they weren't high second-rounders.

Emmanwori is going into a well-established defense that knows what it's doing, though, and already has a couple of world-beaters back there. Schematically and fundamentally I have little doubt that Mike knows what to do with the guy.

I'm still just bugged, though. I certainly hope I'm proven wrong, because the guy's got HoF potential athletically. But the first thing in my mind when we drafted him was Jamal Adams, ridiculous talent but freelanced and made it about himself too much, and it let a lot of big plays through. In the end, people wanted him gone as much as they'd wanted him here just a couple years before.
 
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I'm not sure who or what the "draft chart genius" is, but it's irrelevant. Whether you use charts like the updated JJ chart (roughly how teams value picks) or the updated Chase Stuart chart (roughly what picks are actually worth in expected talent), the fact remains that the Seahawks paid first-round capital for a player who was, by consensus of all 32 NFL teams, not worth a first-round pick.
That's far from the bargain @Hawkpower suggested by ridiculing @MontanaHawk05 for supposedly not liking first-round value in the second round, and I was responding to that. What @Hawkpower ignored was that the Seahawks gave up first-round capital for Emmanwori, and that the 32 NFL teams had decided Emmanwori wasn't a first-round player.
As I said, the truth looks like a second-round-level player taken with first-round draft capital. As I said, that's not the end of the world. However, it is pretty much the opposite of what @Hawkpower had suggested it was, and that's why I replied. Instead of first-round talent for second-round capital, as @Hawkpower had suggested the result of the trade and pick was, it was actually second-round talent (by consensus of all 32 NFL teams) for first-round capital.

"Hmmmmmm...................

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I guess its okay to move up to pick this kid.............
But has anyone checked his tweets? Whats his favorite color?"

Things have gotten a touch out of control.........lol.
 

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And neither Kam nor Sherman were immediate starters themselves, so that's not a huge problem. Then again, they weren't high second-rounders.

Emmanwori is going into a well-established defense that knows what it's doing, though, and already has a couple of world-beaters back there. Schematically and fundamentally I have little doubt that Mike knows what to do with the guy.

I'm still just bugged, though. I certainly hope I'm proven wrong, because the guy's got HoF potential athletically. But the first thing in my mind when we drafted him was Jamal Adams, ridiculous talent but freelanced and made it about himself too much, and it let a lot of big plays through. In the end, people wanted him gone as much as they'd wanted him here just a couple years before.
I think people would have been happy to get Adams for the #35 pick on a cheap rookie contract for 3+ years. If he gets a big extension or PPE salary bump in year 4 then he earned it. If he flames out then it was a gamble at favourable odds, and not every value bet hits.
 

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When you grade players as 1st round talent there are only 32 slots, that does not mean there are only 32 first round grades, if the talent pool is deep you can get 1st round talent well into the second round, and it will cascade, the reverse is also true, some years you may grade players and only have 15 of them marked as 1st round talent, but still draft 17 more in that round.
 

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When you grade players as 1st round talent there are only 32 slots, that does not mean there are only 32 first round grades, if the talent pool is deep you can get 1st round talent well into the second round, and it will cascade, the reverse is also true, some years you may grade players and only have 15 of them marked as 1st round talent, but still draft 17 more in that round.
Not only that but not everyone's boards are the same. Emmanwori was a 1st round grade according to JS, am sure some other teams did too, but they got their higher 1st round grade selected, when you only have 1 pick it's not like you can take both players. Just because someone fell to a certain round doesn't mean that's where he's graded. 32 different boards make a giant puzzle
 

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MANY had this guy as a 1st round pick. We got him in the 2nd. Shouldn't that be a good thing?
I was stoked when I saw the trade up.
Also, 1st round talent makes it to the 2nd round all the time. It isn't some shocking new thing. It happens every single draft.
This kid just feels like a huge Seahawk type pick. VERY fast, tackling machine (like Bobby Boucher) and attitude on the field.
 
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Don’t know if it’s been said but MM used Kyle Hamilton around 30% of defensive plays his rookie year and around 70% year 2, and he was a 1st round pick. I think the percentages will be pretty similar. He won’t be called on a lot year but should be a great situational piece, I’m excited to have him on the team!
 

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Does he sit a year? Do we expect him to play day one? Love this pick, but want to see it work....so maybe some patience?

Our ST's should be legit.
 

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And neither Kam nor Sherman were immediate starters themselves, so that's not a huge problem. Then again, they weren't high second-rounders.

Emmanwori is going into a well-established defense that knows what it's doing, though, and already has a couple of world-beaters back there. Schematically and fundamentally I have little doubt that Mike knows what to do with the guy.

I'm still just bugged, though. I certainly hope I'm proven wrong, because the guy's got HoF potential athletically. But the first thing in my mind when we drafted him was Jamal Adams, ridiculous talent but freelanced and made it about himself too much, and it let a lot of big plays through. In the end, people wanted him gone as much as they'd wanted him here just a couple years before.
I think the wanting him gone had more to do with the injuries that caused him to either miss games or be limited when he was on the field. When the guy was healthy he was a beast. Not a great cover guy but filled gaps and made big plays.
 

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Don’t know if it’s been said but MM used Kyle Hamilton around 30% of defensive plays his rookie year and around 70% year 2, and he was a 1st round pick. I think the percentages will be pretty similar. He won’t be called on a lot year but should be a great situational piece, I’m excited to have him on the team!
The Ravens had a better defense then and Kyle Hamilton was coming
off an injury from Notre Dame.
Emmanwori is bigger and faster than Hamilton so I think he will be used
more in different roles to begin with.
 

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Don’t know if it’s been said but MM used Kyle Hamilton around 30% of defensive plays his rookie year and around 70% year 2, and he was a 1st round pick. I think the percentages will be pretty similar. He won’t be called on a lot year but should be a great situational piece, I’m excited to have him on the team!
Close... Hamilton's defensive snap numbers were actually 51% his rookie season (not 30)... and 91% (not 70) his sophomore season, when he earned BOTH Pro Bowl and All Pro accolades.

my source
 

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