Battle for the Number 2 Pick

[seatownlowdown]

i mean it's even conceivable we could draft twice in the top 10 picks. draft a player with the denver pick and then use a combo of our mid 1st and a 2nd to trade back up into the top 10

unlikely given schneider's MO, but with the resources we have it's certainly possible.

 

[Donn2390]

We're all wasting far too much brain power in attempting to figure out how to go about making the picks when the time comes.
I suggest a simple solution to answering the questions, we simply send an invitation to John Schneider to join the forum..!

 

[toffee]

We dodged a bullet when Rams signed Baker and not Broncos. For nothing else, Rams won last night and no one will be there to push Wilson.

 

[QWERTY]

We dodged a bullet when Rams signed Baker and not Broncos. For nothing else, Rams won last night and no one will be there to push Wilson.

The Broncos are stuck with Wilson, for the next 2-4 years. Unless he gets injured. The problem isn't the QB, the problem is how to make the QB better. They can't give up on him, but they have to give him better weapons, or improve the OL, since it's a big investment for them.

 

[toffee]

Texan leading Cowboys 23-20 in the 4th
Jaguar leading Titans 33-14 in the 4th also

 

[beastalamode]

Could the Seahawks really end up with the #1 pick? Don't play with my emotions like this Donkeys and Texans!

 

[seatownlowdown]

The problem isn't the QB, the problem is how to make the QB better.

... you realize by saying the problem is how to make the QB better, you are saying that QB is the problem to begin with? the cope with russell wilson apologists is unreal. he just simply can't be the problem? right?

they should bench wilson and find a replacement for such an under-performing player.

 

[Ozzy]

There is a very good chance they draft a QB with Denver’s pick

 

[acctingman]

They have to draft a QB. Geno isn't going to take anyone to the promised land.

 

[Jegpeg]

They have to draft a QB. Geno isn't going to take anyone to the promised land.

A lot of people assume that drafting a QB with the 2nd or 3rd overall pick guarantees a star franchise QB but the odds of a QB selected with a high draft pick will lead us to the promised land is far lower that relying on Geno. Look at the QBs drafted with a top 3 pick in the last 10 years:
Z. Wilson, Lawence, Lance, Burrow, Murray, Mayfield, Darnold, Trubisky, Goff, Winston, Marriotta and Bortles.
From that list I would be happy if we have Burrow, I think Murray is overated but OK but we would not be happy with any of the others as our starting QB.

 

[Followthelegion]

For a moment there in the Houston game, I thought the number 1 pick might be back on the table!
Wilson got a horrible concussion hit and left the Denver game, unsure if he will be OK to return next week. As of now, Seahawks have the number 2 pick with4 games remaining.
Broncos have Cardinals, Rams, Chiefs and Chargers to go.

 

[u0087966]

Trading down doesn't make sense to me as we can get a "difference maker" defender. Jalen Carter or Will Anderson Jr are difference makers plus the Hawks have three more picks in the first two rounds. Trenton Simpson, LB from Clemson, should be at the Hawks 2nd first round pick.

That two great picks out of the front right there.

 

[GemCity]

I’d really like our first four picks to be defense.

I think Geno has done a terrific job and could be a good option (at a reasonable) price next year. We could grab a QB in the 24 draft if this is the case.

But….if he’s looking at much more over $30M, which many here have said he’ll get, it’s too much.

While I’ve been impressed by his performance, I don’t think for a second he’s going to lead any team deep in the playoffs. Fair or not, I’ve viewed him as a “stop-gap” QB.

I don’t know what Lock is capable of but if past performance is an indicator, he’s not that guy either.

Our biggest problem right now is our D-line and you don’t fix that by drafting a QB.

This year has been incredible. Beating Denver (Russ) at home was a great feeling. Winning more than 5-6 games is a welcomed surprise. Watching the rookies develop has been more fun that the last 5-6 previous years of Seahawks football.

In my opinion, we have at least 2 years to go and that will take some patience, a dynamic QB on a rookie contract, and excellent drafts like this past year.

Enjoy the ride and cross your fingers. Try to think back before the season started…where you thought this team would be…compared to what we’ve done. It’s not all bad!

 

[massari]

Take Jalen Carter 2nd overall, then trade up into the top 10 using the 1st+two 2nds to draft a QB with "generational upside" like Anthony Richardson if he's still on the board (like the Chiefs did to get Mahomes).

They actually have time to let him develop as a backup for a couple of seasons (unlike some other teams) since they have Geno Smith, like Mahomes had Alex Smith.

Walking away with possibly the next Aaron Donald and Josh Allen/Mahomes is the best they can do.

 

[Jegpeg]

Take Jalen Carter 2nd overall, then trade up into the top 10 using the 1st+two 2nds to draft a QB with "generational upside" like Anthony Richardson if he's still on the board (like the Chiefs did to get Mahomes).

They actually have time to let him develop as a backup for a couple of seasons (unlike some other teams) since they have Geno Smith, like Mahomes had Alex Smith.

Walking away with possibly the next Aaron Donald and Josh Allen/Mahomes is the best they can do.

Just like Mahomes Josh Rosen was taken at 10 as a QB with "generational upside" and he led the Cards to the No 1 pick.
I know far less than any HC / GM about assessing college players for how they will play in the NFL in 2 or 3 years time but history has shown it is a lottery. Selecting 1st overall you have a higher chance of a win then selecting 10th overall and a 2nd rounder has a lower chance again, so are you better off with more lottery tickets or one good one?

My thought is our Defence is so bad at the moment we would be better off with 3 or 4 solid starters from the draft than one superstar to play alongside a bunch of back-up quality players at best. Trading No 2 down a couple of times we could end up with No7 alongside a couple of 2nd rounders and a 3rd giving us 6 picks in the first 2 rounds and 2 more in the 3rd, if we nail the draft like last year that is a whole load of generational talent.

Aaron Donald was drafted 13 so it isn't as if the best defensive players always go top of the draft.

We can leave getting a QB with "generational talent" until the 6th round and get someone like Tom Brady

 

[Seahawkfan80]

Enjoy the ride and cross your fingers. Try to think back before the season started…where you thought this team would be…compared to what we’ve done. It’s not all bad!

I thought we were gonna be the record the Donkos have.

 

[hoxrox]

 

[hawkfan68]

A lot of people assume that drafting a QB with the 2nd or 3rd overall pick guarantees a star franchise QB but the odds of a QB selected with a high draft pick will lead us to the promised land is far lower that relying on Geno. Look at the QBs drafted with a top 3 pick in the last 10 years:
Z. Wilson, Lawence, Lance, Burrow, Murray, Mayfield, Darnold, Trubisky, Goff, Winston, Marriotta and Bortles.
From that list I would be happy if we have Burrow, I think Murray is overated but OK but we would not be happy with any of the others as our starting QB.

I agree with your point. You left out Justin Herbert who was the 6th pick in 2020.

 

[massari]

Just like Mahomes Josh Rosen was taken at 10 as a QB with "generational upside" and he led the Cards to the No 1 pick.
I know far less than any HC / GM about assessing college players for how they will play in the NFL in 2 or 3 years time but history has shown it is a lottery. Selecting 1st overall you have a higher chance of a win then selecting 10th overall and a 2nd rounder has a lower chance again, so are you better off with more lottery tickets or one good one?

My thought is our Defence is so bad at the moment we would be better off with 3 or 4 solid starters from the draft than one superstar to play alongside a bunch of back-up quality players at best. Trading No 2 down a couple of times we could end up with No7 alongside a couple of 2nd rounders and a 3rd giving us 6 picks in the first 2 rounds and 2 more in the 3rd, if we nail the draft like last year that is a whole load of generational talent.

We can leave getting a QB with "generational talent" until the 6th round and get someone like Tom Brady

Rosen didn't have generational upside though

Non QBs in the first two rounds aren't exactly a lock to pan out either. Paul Richarson, Ifedi, Pocic, Collier, Blair, Eskridge ect ect

Give me Jalen Carter and Anthony Richardson with the first two picks.

Not every prospect with elite tools becomes Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. Far from it. But there’s merit to banking on traits, especially if they’re present in such a high quantity as Anthony Richardson possesses. Richardson brings legitimacy to the term “generational upside.”

 

[Hawkinaz]

My take on Anthony Richardson

one of the most inconsistent players I have ever seen, can look like he should be the #1 player taken ( game against Utah) or being undraftable ( game against Florida St) I compare him to Malik Wilis very good physical tools but has no clue to play the QB position IMO he is at least 2 seasons away from seeing action in an NFL game. If AR doesn't like the 1st read he just runs even when he doesn't have to. I would rather draft a lesser athlete but has a grasp on the QB position. Josh Allen is the exception and not the rule. Using two 2nd rd pics to trade up is a poor use of draft capital when other holes are needed to be filled

I wouldn't draft him before the 3rd rd