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Mitch tweeted that various sources have reported that the Sac bid was nearly $100 million less than Hansen's.

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I think Seattle will come out with the Kings in the end. Its hard to imagine a large non-refundable deposit being made from Chris Hansens group if they were not confident a deal would be approved.

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Hansen to make an announcement tonight at 5

Probably something small but still, news!


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Chris Hansen asks for priority ticket waitlist:

http://www.nwcn.com/news/washington/197232461.html


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Hansen to make an announcement tonight at 5

Probably something small but still, news!


Waitlist for tickets will go live on Thurs. 07-08 season ticketholders can reserve same seats. Go to Sonicsarena.com to reserve.


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Actually a brilliant move, getting a ticket list for Key Arena to reserve priority will show fan interst and also show what sort of revenue the team can bring in vs Sacramentos established arena and their ticket sales. I'm betting there is a advertisement pool being started as well somewhere to establish key locations to further show income possibilities.

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So here's where we are now:

In case you guys haven't heard....
TOMORROW at 10 am you can put your name down on the official SONICS PRIORITY TICKET WAITLIST.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sonicsarena

Planning on buying season tickets for next year in the Key? Put your name down here, you'll get a call in May with assistance on how to move forward with that. What about going for a multi-game package or maybe just a couple of games? From what I can tell, you can do that here as well. This serves two purposes: 1. to start getting the ball rolling for ticket sales and 2. to give Chris some hard numbers to bring with him to the NBA committee meeting on April 3rd.

Even if you're just thinking of buying season tickets or a package or a couple of pairs of tickets for 2 nights of b-ball, sign up. It might be important, it might not, but just sign up. If you want Sonics basketball, all you have to do is ask. If you end up not being able to afford it or whatever, doesn't matter, you aren't putting money down or entering a contract, just expressing interest. This is a big deal guys. So do it.

Also:

If you haven't seen yet, SonicsArena released some awesome conceptual pictures and video of the interior of the new arena:

http://www.sonicsarena.com/news/arena-renderings



Now in "don't worry, Sac's chances look small" news:

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/03/13/525794 ... rylink=cpy

And a newspiece on just how complicated the Downtown Plaza site would be for an arena:

http://www.kcra.com/news/New-Sacramento ... index.html

And they've got about 8 days to hammer out most of the details to give enough time for only 5 days of public review before a city council vote to approve a non-binding term sheet. That's what's necessary to have anything to bring to that same April 3rd committee meeting.

Those are the cold hard facts for now. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sign up for the ticket waitlist tomorrow. Let's make a huge push, we're just about there.

And if you're ever looking to stay up to date on this stuff, don't forget http://blog.sonicsrising.com, where I get all or most of my information from, do all of my rollercoaster ride worrying and speculating before I come here and try to act like the cool, responsible adult.


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Btw, just sign up for the priority list, don't cost you nothing and it's also if you're interested in single games too.

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We crashed the site earlier!!!! Way to go Sonics fans!
Like Throw said it costs nothing no obligations and at the very least shows support
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The "sonic rings" in the arena are awesome, but that doesn't mean I want to sit in them lol.

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They just released photos of the arena configured for hockey and it looks pretty sweet!

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They just released photos of the arena configured for hockey and it looks pretty sweet!

Link?

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They just released photos of the arena configured for hockey and it looks pretty sweet!

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Here it is:
http://www.sonicsarena.com/news/hockey-anyone

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"I would just like to start off by both thanking all of you for the overwhelming response, and apologizing for the site going down this morning." - Chris Hansen

http://www.sonicsarena.com/news/wow-.-. ... was-insane

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So apparently that Kehriotis guy is about the unveil his pretty much if not fully privately funded plan for the Kings in Sac.

That sounds scary, but it's not. This isn't KJ's plan, this doesn't involve a downtown arena like KJ wants, it just doesn't have that backing. All this will do is serve to muddy the waters, which helps Seattle's chances.


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Getting ready for the return already...

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Getting ready for the return already...

http://www.seattleteams.com/style/NBA-M ... p/20363494

Just got this hat.


That cap is illy!!!!!!

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Was listening to Ian Furness at work with my Walkman but KJR'S signal goes in and out. He teased something about Sacramento and I never heard anything else. Anyone else catch this ?

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I just want to see a picture of your Walkman!

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I hope he has a cassette player on it! god, I hope so.

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I hope he has a cassette player on it! god, I hope so.


I hope its the yellow sport one that was semi water resistant! Please let it be that one.

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Sorry fellas it the black radio version, says Sony Walkman on it, Fred Meyer still sells them, that's where I bought it in December.

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Sorry fellas it the black radio version, says Sony Walkman on it, Fred Meyer still sells them, that's where I bought it in December.



Well, that is pretty ghetto, unless you carry it in a fanny pack.

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LOL, It's work, not a fashion show. It's not that big, it's not nano small, it's about half the size of My iPhone.

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i uses to use my walkman on jogs back in the day... would have been great if not for all the cd skipping and such...

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i uses to use my walkman on jogs back in the day... would have been great if not for all the cd skipping and such...


Thank god for my iPod when I go jogging.

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i uses to use my walkman on jogs back in the day... would have been great if not for all the cd skipping and such...


You had a cd Walkman!? Fancy!

I rocked the cassette version, I wore my Pyromania Def Leopard tape out! :)

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BREAKING: Sac announces third investor! Some dude who owns some software company....

to soften the blow that they failed to come to an arena deal as of today, the self-imposed deadline. Things could be winding down.


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Not even. Some dude named Vivek. http://blogs.sacbee.com/city-beat/2013/ ... kings.html

Probably a Nordstrom-size investor. Their group is still nothing close to the Seattle group.

Today was a massive failure for Sacramento.


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Wow, so this guy is actually taking over as the lead investor for buying the team. Mastrov would be a minority owner. Seems like an insane shake up at this point in the game.


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Wow, so this guy is actually taking over as the lead investor for buying the team. Mastrov would be a minority owner. Seems like an insane shake up at this point in the game.


I don't see this shaking out, he's a minority stake owner for the Warriors, can he even go to the NBA and show them anything for ANOTHER team while he still owns part of another team?

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In other news, in light of this newest development that Pinksheets has brought to .NET's attention, it appears that Blitzer88 boxed his Sonics gear again, only to bring it back out on the 3rd and 18th of April.

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In other news, in light of this newest development that Pinksheets has brought to .NET's attention, it appears that Blitzer88 boxed his Sonics gear again, only to bring it back out on the 3rd and 18th of April.


Your telling me.......I've run out of packing tape because I opened and re-closed my Sonic's gear box again, again and again. It would be so much more convenient if they just made it official, no?

And on the Sac-town news that came out today, this could be good news for us. An investor switch this late in the game does not show the NBA BOG stability within the proposed investment group that they are probably looking for.

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This not only shows desperation but lack of organzation, lack of being able to keep deadlines, and lack of follow thru, as the article says, all with everyone who makes the decisions from the NBA looking on and taking notes. Is this the group you want leading a franchise in the NBA ? They have to be thinking or that other group lead by Mr. Hansen, who has seemingly been one step or more ahead at every situation in his purchasing and relocation offer.

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Wow, so this guy is actually taking over as the lead investor for buying the team. Mastrov would be a minority owner. Seems like an insane shake up at this point in the game.


I don't see this shaking out, he's a minority stake owner for the Warriors, can he even go to the NBA and show them anything for ANOTHER team while he still owns part of another team?

He'd have to sell his stake in the Warriors. The NBA does not allow an individual ownership in more than one team, or Paul Allen would own the Sonics right now.

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Wow, so this guy is actually taking over as the lead investor for buying the team. Mastrov would be a minority owner. Seems like an insane shake up at this point in the game.


I don't see this shaking out, he's a minority stake owner for the Warriors, can he even go to the NBA and show them anything for ANOTHER team while he still owns part of another team?

He'd have to sell his stake in the Warriors. The NBA does not allow an individual ownership in more than one team, or Paul Allen would own the Sonics right now.


I know, but right now I don't see how he's allowed to be out here actually fronting this when he owns a stake in Golden State, just seems odd.

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His participation will just be conditional on him selling his GSW share if he gets the Kings.

Isn't it odd that the new frontman and hero of the Sacramento movement is a guy with a decent stake in the nearest team and obvious choice to fill that TV market if the Kings leave? What is there to gain from winning over current Kings fans? I wonder....

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Sac announces their arena deal.

$258m public contribution, $190 private. The devil will be in the details, as there could be a lot of ground for legal challenges for how Sac wants to fund this thing. Basically money laundering.


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Sac announces their arena deal.

$258m public contribution, $190 private. The devil will be in the details, as there could be a lot of ground for legal challenges for how Sac wants to fund this thing. Basically money laundering.


Sac will fund this in a legit manner

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$258m public contribution, $190 private. The devil will be in the details, as there could be a lot of ground for legal challenges for how Sac wants to fund this thing. Basically money laundering.


Sac will fund this in a legit manner


From the last arena deal, it was acknowledged that California state law prohibits parking revenue from being spent on anything besides maintenance, garages, etc. The plan detailed in that deal, if still the same, was to use the parking revenue to pay off debts on garages and use the funds they were going to otherwise use on said debts towards the arena. That's either going to be a hell of a loophole or considered an attempt to circumvent the law, I don't know.

The other issue is going to be the city's attempt to use a de facto non-profit to issue bonds to try to not make the city's poor credit and existing debt a factor in this. There's talk the IRS might not consider that kosher. We'll still see the specifics, but just from what Shirey had said, this deal has the potential for far more significant legal challenges than Seattle's and will be rammed through in 2 days, a process of just due diligence and consideration that was given 4 months in Seattle. Different political climates, though, obviously. A deal like this would never, ever fly in Seattle, nor would the non-evidence based claim that a sports arena is going to be the centerpiece in revitalizing an economy.


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And it's oddly convenient that the arena deal was't announced and won't be released until after the 3 public forums on the arena have already occurred. A deliberate attempt to avoid transparency, obviously, but it doesn't seem like it'll catch much flack in Sacramento.


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I'm still not worried about it, our arena plan is strong, ownership group could buy 100 Ranadive's & Mastrov's if they felt like it.

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