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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:06 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:
    bubbrubb wrote:I would be all for trading sherm....dude is a goof. I was a casual seahawk fan his first year and I remember he cost us a penalty on a MNF game for his stupid antics. It was so stupid I remembered him...for wrong reason. Get rid of him while his stock is high.


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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:08 pm
  • What are you trying to say there, Alice?
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:09 pm
  • AbsolutNET wrote:
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    bubbrubb wrote:I would be all for trading sherm....dude is a goof. I was a casual seahawk fan his first year and I remember he cost us a penalty on a MNF game for his stupid antics. It was so stupid I remembered him...for wrong reason. Get rid of him while his stock is high.


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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:36 pm
  • FargoHawk wrote:Interesting that the people who hate Bayless for being loud, obnoxious, and opinionated are the same people who are backing our loud, obnoxious, and opinionated CB.


    Come on, man. Not even close. Skip does NOTHING but make a living talking about how he thinks other people are not doing their job well and he does so with a veil of authority that is only opinion masquerading as fact.

    Richard Sherman shuts down one side of the football field for a living. In his spare time he inspires children to better themselves and set goals, he tweets counterarguments to people telling him he isn't as good as other players, and he's an engaging interview (see the NFL AM stuff). This one time he took a personal angle on an argument with the aforementioned man who makes a living by personally disparaging professional athletes.

    People can say that commenting on athletes' play is not personal, but Skip says things like 'he didn't show up' or 'he didn't want it enough' when he could not possibly know those things. THAT is the ridiculousness of Skip Bayless, and those are the tamest examples. Sherman played him at his own game in one interview, but that's not what he does for a living. BIG difference.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:41 pm
  • Wow I should have stopped reading this thread a few pages ago...
    Can't believe how people see this as anything other than Sherm finishing a beef that Skip started
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:42 pm
  • hah, been a seahawk fan my whole life, but holmgren era tested that. Sherm is annoying...I think he's a goof....I like the whole secondary but him. Just like the one poster said, you guys harp on Bayless/Smith for yapping uncontrollably, but Sherm is in same boat.

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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:47 pm
  • FargoHawk wrote:Interesting that the people who hate Bayless for being loud, obnoxious, and opinionated are the same people who are backing our loud, obnoxious, and opinionated CB.


    How so? Shermans just giving him a taste of his own medicine. That's why I and many others love it. Is Sherman always like that? No! Bayless is. It's about time someone put him in his place
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:49 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:
    FargoHawk wrote:Interesting that the people who hate Bayless for being loud, obnoxious, and opinionated are the same people who are backing our loud, obnoxious, and opinionated CB.


    How so? Shermans just giving him a taste of his own medicine. That's why I and many others love it. Is Sherman always like that? No! Bayless is. It's about time someone put him in his place

    Thank you for agreeing with me and confirming my point.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:56 pm
  • Sherman didn't put anyone in their place. Anyone who is being honest with themselves knows he looked stupid. Young guy that was too jacked up. It's not that he attacked Skip, it's that he poorly articulated himself. The things he said were just stupid. Sherman better back it up on the field.

    Wonder what Scheinder and Pete are thinking. Bet it isn't what most Hawks homers are saying.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:04 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:
    FargoHawk wrote:Interesting that the people who hate Bayless for being loud, obnoxious, and opinionated are the same people who are backing our loud, obnoxious, and opinionated CB.


    How so? Shermans just giving him a taste of his own medicine. That's why I and many others love it. Is Sherman always like that? No! Bayless is. It's about time someone put him in his place


    You can put someone in their place without stooping to name calling and "I'm better than you" like some 12 year old.

    The entire sports media world would have been standing and cheering if Sherm would have just kept it to what he said during the last minute of the interview. But the reason people aren't is because Sherman made it personal and went down the juvenile name calling road.

    Again, it's not hard to debate idiots like Bayless with a little more class and tact. That's all some of us are saying. No need to get nasty.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:06 pm
  • bubbrubb wrote:hah, been a seahawk fan my whole life, but holmgren era tested that. Sherm is annoying...I think he's a goof....I like the whole secondary but him. Just like the one poster said, you guys harp on Bayless/Smith for yapping uncontrollably, but Sherm is in same boat.

    Just calling it like I see it my brother...er.....


    But he's arguably the best player in the secondary and you in all your genius said we should trade him. That's not going to go over well with anyone, whether you like him or not.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:07 pm
  • bubbrubb wrote:hah, been a seahawk fan my whole life, but holmgren era tested that. Sherm is annoying...I think he's a goof....I like the whole secondary but him. Just like the one poster said, you guys harp on Bayless/Smith for yapping uncontrollably, but Sherm is in same boat.

    Just calling it like I see it my brother...er.....


    Dominating the NFC West more often than not and getting to the SB tested you? Man you're one hard man to please. And you're the one that called yourself a casual Seahawk fan, so I don't know what you're trying to defend here.

    You like the whole secondary but him? ET and Sherm are the 2 best. Yeah, let's get rid of Sherm because "he's a goof". Weird how you've been a Seahawk fan your whole life but can't appreciate an all-pro shutdown corner. You can hate him as a person, but to not even want him on your team, is ridiculous.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:08 pm
  • Great job by Sherm. Bayless has been a bully that doesn't expect to have to be accountable for what he says as a lot of athletes are easygoing and let Skip get awat with that stuff (Lebron, Kobe). But some guys take him to task: Cuban, Suggs; and now Sherm.

    Sherm brought facts (All-pro, statistics, Stanford grad) while Bayless only used opinion. Most of the time Sherm is cordial and upbeat with his trash talking, this time he decided to be the bad guy to take on the bully. Somewhere Lebron, Kobe, Flacco and other past targets are slow clapping.

    Bayless is like the annoying goofs at the games that run their mouth about pro athletes knowing that they'll never have to answer for it, only this time the pro athlete brought the fight. Sherm is that dude.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:09 pm
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    FargoHawk wrote:Interesting that the people who hate Bayless for being loud, obnoxious, and opinionated are the same people who are backing our loud, obnoxious, and opinionated CB.


    Come on, man. Not even close. Skip does NOTHING but make a living talking about how he thinks other people are not doing their job well and he does so with a veil of authority that is only opinion masquerading as fact.

    Richard Sherman shuts down one side of the football field for a living. In his spare time he inspires children to better themselves and set goals, he tweets counterarguments to people telling him he isn't as good as other players, and he's an engaging interview (see the NFL AM stuff). This one time he took a personal angle on an argument with the aforementioned man who makes a living by personally disparaging professional athletes.

    People can say that commenting on athletes' play is not personal, but Skip says things like 'he didn't show up' or 'he didn't want it enough' when he could not possibly know those things. THAT is the ridiculousness of Skip Bayless, and those are the tamest examples. Sherman played him at his own game in one interview, but that's not what he does for a living. BIG difference.

    Good, so you agree with me as well. Bayless makes things personal so Sherman "went there" and made things personal.

    Again, The reasons people are complaining about Bayless are the same things Sherman did in this interview. Sherman has been great on NFLAM, Bleacher Report, and others but this was not good.

    I strongly dislike Bayless and i LOVE Sherman but Bayless pulled him right into this trap and down to his level. Sherman has said that he talks to WRs to throw them off their game and unfortunately Bayless actually played Sherman the same way.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:16 pm
  • Now, if Sherm could somehow show up on the Nancy Grace show and hand that nasty loud mouth bitch the same treatment.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:20 pm
  • Sherman knows what he's doing. Just like that, he's signed with powerful agents Ben Dogra and Jimmy Sexton. Two of their clients are Mario Williams and Adrian Peterson. You may think Sherman looks foolish, but the guy's calculated and intelligent.

    The agency also signed many of the the biggest names in the upcoming draft.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:30 pm
  • Interesting read for 10+ pages.
    I expected Hawk fans would like anything Sherman does but I cannot see how more of you do not see how this was way overboard and crossed the line. I have spoken to a few of my Hawk friends and tbh they are sensible and dont really like that Sherm went crazy like that. He should do just what he mentioned, "Let the tape speak for itself"! He has got his 15+ minutes of fame and he will get his money in a few seasons.(wait til you have to pay that bill :P )

    My opinion is he completely reminds me of an even more crazed Terrel Owens, who never could just let his great play speak for him, instead he would seek out media attention and it always worked against him rather he saw it that way or not. Sharpie anyone?
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:31 pm
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    FargoHawk wrote:Interesting that the people who hate Bayless for being loud, obnoxious, and opinionated are the same people who are backing our loud, obnoxious, and opinionated CB.


    How so? Shermans just giving him a taste of his own medicine. That's why I and many others love it. Is Sherman always like that? No! Bayless is. It's about time someone put him in his place


    You can put someone in their place without stooping to name calling and "I'm better than you" like some 12 year old.

    The entire sports media world would have been standing and cheering if Sherm would have just kept it to what he said during the last minute of the interview. But the reason people aren't is because Sherman made it personal and went down the juvenile name calling road.

    Again, it's not hard to debate idiots like Bayless with a little more class and tact. That's all some of us are saying. No need to get nasty.


    I disagree. Being on the show? That was the mistake. getting nasty with Bayless? Might as well, you are on his shitty show now. ONce you decide to swim in the sewer, own the stink. Even if Sherman had never opened the way he did, he was never asked onto that show to talk about charity work. The questions that followed later were intended to make him look like an ass. Bayless tried to set him up to disrespect the Niners (he didn't take the bait), disrespect the Redskins (thank goodness he didn't come out and say that if RGIII were healthy we still would have beat them), disrespect his teammates (the whole thing about him being so good because of our front 7 could have been a disaster if Sherm had pointed out the truth about just how they actually played down the stretch).

    Sherm was told he was going to be on First Take to describe his SWAG charity. Most of you have only watched the snippet in the youtube video, right before the commercial break that preceded the show Sherman was described by Bayless as badmouthing Tom Brady (not true), getting slapped by a Skins player for talking trash (also not true), and not belonging in the same conversation as Revis (seeing as both have been voted all-pros, that is also untrue). The whole intent of the dialogue before the break was to Eff with Sherman just before he came on air.

    Skip Bayless does this shit for money. If Sherm were not going to be on, I would never watch it. Bayless is a life long troll who built his career not on being good at journalism, but on being controversial. He came up in the newspaper biz and was hated by the readers in every city he was in, who could not wait to plunk their quarters down to read what the guy they hated would write tomorrow.

    Keep in mind, thought, Sherm had to know what could happen before he agreed to be on this show. Don't forget, we are talking about the guy who trolled fans at the Super Bowl just to see the look on their faces when they realized they had been bagging on a pro player to his own face. ANd know that the next time Sherman does well, he will rub in in Skip's face. And the next time Sherman has a mistake, Bayless will rub it in the world's face. It won't matter how many rings Sherman has on his hand either.

    And ESPN is laughing at all of us, all the way to the bank.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:42 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:Sherman knows what he's doing. Just like that, he's signed with powerful agents Ben Dogra and Jimmy Sexton. Two of their clients are Mario Williams and Adrian Peterson. You may think Sherman looks foolish, but the guy's calculated and intelligent.

    The agency also signed many of the the biggest names in the upcoming draft.

    What exactly are you implying?
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:43 pm
  • Ninerguy wrote:Interesting read for 10+ pages.
    I expected Hawk fans would like anything Sherman does but I cannot see how more of you do not see how this was way overboard and crossed the line. I have spoken to a few of my Hawk friends and tbh they are sensible and dont really like that Sherm went crazy like that. He should do just what he mentioned, "Let the tape speak for itself"! He has got his 15+ minutes of fame and he will get his money in a few seasons.(wait til you have to pay that bill :P )

    My opinion is he completely reminds me of an even more crazed Terrel Owens, who never could just let his great play speak for him, instead he would seek out media attention and it always worked against him rather he saw it that way or not. Sharpie anyone?

    And yet, when given the chance on First take to talk shit about your Niners, he gave them props for winning the division. Respect. For the division winners.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:51 pm
  • Sherm could have kept his cool better and stuck his stats to Skip (simply put: One season that matches Revis's best season should put Sherman in the conversation), but he wasn't hired for his ability to debate on national TV. Who cares if he gave a bad(ly articulated) interview? I only care if he helps take the Hawks to the next level by his play on the field, and I'll support him as long as he is a member of our team.

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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:52 pm
  • FargoHawk wrote:
    -The Glove- wrote:Sherman knows what he's doing. Just like that, he's signed with powerful agents Ben Dogra and Jimmy Sexton. Two of their clients are Mario Williams and Adrian Peterson. You may think Sherman looks foolish, but the guy's calculated and intelligent.

    The agency also signed many of the the biggest names in the upcoming draft.

    What exactly are you implying?

    That he's setting himself up to make a lot of money.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:57 pm
  • Just in case you all forgot, Skip got his big break by calling Troy Aikman homosexual in one of his books to get people to read it. That is Skip Bayless. He deserves every insult that anyone throws at him at any time. He's the guy that would have been stoned to death or thrown out of town if this was the 1700's.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:07 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:I don't know why people are on here excusing Bayless for throwing darts at Sherman not expecting him to send a few back his way?


    Maybe because an athlete of Sherman's stature should be above stopping down to SKIP BAYLESS levels? Do you see LeBron James going on first take? Hell no.

    Plus, his trash talk wasn't even that great. He was way too emotional and sounded on the verge of tears. Sherman had nothing at all to gain by going on that show
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:07 pm
  • I don't think one person in 12 pages has professed the most remote inkling of respect for nor admiration of Skip Bayless. But, thanks.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:11 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:The beginning and the end of the interview (if you can call it an interview) I'm fine with, but the middle part where Sherm's personally attacking Bayless was bush league at best. Sherm's better than that.

    Here's the problem Sherman's creating for himself by going after everyone and anyone that says something bad about him. He's leaving himself no room for error. Sherman's put himself so high up on a pedestal publicly with all this chest thumping that there's nowhere for him to go but down. He's created a persona that everyone other than Hawk fans will be rooting against him.


    I wonder when it comes contract extension time and Sherman is likely demanding one of the larger defensive contracts in the game how his act will be viewed here then?

    In my opinion when his brashness turns into wanting to get paid, and there's no way I can imagine a guy making peanuts right now and self proclaiming himself the best in the game won't demand more money than anyone, people here won't be supporting him as much anymore(though he'll still likely have a lot of fans if he plays well)
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:20 pm
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    Sgt. Largent wrote:The beginning and the end of the interview (if you can call it an interview) I'm fine with, but the middle part where Sherm's personally attacking Bayless was bush league at best. Sherm's better than that.

    Here's the problem Sherman's creating for himself by going after everyone and anyone that says something bad about him. He's leaving himself no room for error. Sherman's put himself so high up on a pedestal publicly with all this chest thumping that there's nowhere for him to go but down. He's created a persona that everyone other than Hawk fans will be rooting against him.


    I wonder when it comes contract extension time and Sherman is likely demanding one of the larger defensive contracts in the game how his act will be viewed here then?

    In my opinion when his brashness turns into wanting to get paid, and there's no way I can imagine a guy making peanuts right now and self proclaiming himself the best in the game won't demand more money than anyone, people here won't be supporting him as much anymore(though he'll still likely have a lot of fans if he plays well)

    If he continues to play at the level he's playing at, he deserves to get paid. It's no secret that Sherman and Wilson are incredibly underpaid by NFL standards. I expect him to demand Revis+ money if he plays this well going forward. And I'll support him as long as he's a Seahawk. If he leaves, then sayonara.

    It's the same thing if Sherman was on the Niners. We would be bashing him. You guys would be defending him.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:32 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:If he continues to play at the level he's playing at, he deserves to get paid. It's no secret that Sherman and Wilson are incredibly underpaid by NFL standards. I expect him to demand Revis+ money if he plays this well going forward. And I'll support him as long as he's a Seahawk. If he leaves, then sayonara.

    It's the same thing if Sherman was on the Niners. We would be bashing him. You guys would be defending him.


    True. There's no debating Sherman's talent. Guys who are really outspoken though tend to have some pretty messy/difficult contract extensions though. I think he's walking a really fine line in which right now a lot of people love him, but that might not be the case in a few years.

    I would be kind of concerned about how he'd react if he felt like Seattle was disrespecting him in contract negotiations or he wasn't being taken care of, just based on his personality in the media. It might be tough to give the guy what he wants with so many other Seahawk players who are good and young also going to be needing contract(the gift and the curse of drafting so well like Seattle has done).
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:43 pm
  • heyu123 wrote:
    -The Glove- wrote:If he continues to play at the level he's playing at, he deserves to get paid. It's no secret that Sherman and Wilson are incredibly underpaid by NFL standards. I expect him to demand Revis+ money if he plays this well going forward. And I'll support him as long as he's a Seahawk. If he leaves, then sayonara.

    It's the same thing if Sherman was on the Niners. We would be bashing him. You guys would be defending him.


    True. There's no debating Sherman's talent. Guys who are really outspoken though tend to have some pretty messy/difficult contract extensions though. I think he's walking a really fine line in which right now a lot of people love him, but that might not be the case in a few years.

    I would be kind of concerned about how he'd react if he felt like Seattle was disrespecting him in contract negotiations or he wasn't being taken care of, just based on his personality in the media. It might be tough to give the guy what he wants with so many other Seahawk players who are good and young also going to be needing contract(the gift and the curse of drafting so well like Seattle has done).

    That's true. Too many young guys playing out of their mind on rookie contracts. There's no doubt, not all of them will be retained. As for Sherman, being as he's my favorite current Seahawk, I tend to look into more of the context of these situations he's in. We get to know him a little better, and I've yet to see him disrespect someone that didn't disrespect him first. But I can understand from an outsiders perspective how he'd seem like just a loud, obnoxious ME type of guy when that's all you really get to see of him outside of a few Sundays a season.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:49 pm
  • After 12 pages, I'm left wondering if Fargohawk and BFS are the same person? So similar of writing styles. BFS rant in.....
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:01 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:
    bubbrubb wrote:hah, been a seahawk fan my whole life, but holmgren era tested that. Sherm is annoying...I think he's a goof....I like the whole secondary but him. Just like the one poster said, you guys harp on Bayless/Smith for yapping uncontrollably, but Sherm is in same boat.

    Just calling it like I see it my brother...er.....


    Dominating the NFC West more often than not and getting to the SB tested you? Man you're one hard man to please. And you're the one that called yourself a casual Seahawk fan, so I don't know what you're trying to defend here.

    You like the whole secondary but him? ET and Sherm are the 2 best. Yeah, let's get rid of Sherm because "he's a goof". Weird how you've been a Seahawk fan your whole life but can't appreciate an all-pro shutdown corner. You can hate him as a person, but to not even want him on your team, is ridiculous.


    relax bro, just my opinion. I'm a big fan now for sure, but I'm also a fan of guys that keep it classy. Sherm went down to Skip's level. Needs to stop being so sensitive. I think it'll catch up to Sherm, that's all I'm saying.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:26 pm
  • Ya know, I'm seeing a pattern. In every situation Richard Sherman finds himself in, he becomes a mirror. He's got a psychological game going on and everybody who presents a challenge finds his crosshairs. Think about it.

    Tom Brady starts the dialogue. Sherman ends it. (to great ado)
    Trent Williams makes an offer. Sherman accepts. (to great ado)
    Twitterers say he's not as good as Revis. He tweets his stats. (to great ado)
    Bourbon Street is rowdy and fun. So is Sherman. (etc)
    NFL AM is well-dressed, low-key, positive, and polite. So is Sherman. (blah blah)
    Skip Bayless is an insufferable prick. So is... (yadda yadda)
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:30 pm
  • I wish Sherm had actually asked Skip to break down why he thought Revis was better. Offer a breakdown of their relative ball skills, athleticism, bump and run ability, physicality...etc. Just go category by category and see if Bayless had any relevant knowledge whatsoever which would allow him to form an opinion. My guess is that he would not. Sherm would have come out looking like roses if he had done that instead of going for personal attacks.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:40 pm
  • Sherman's routine does nothing for me as a fan. If the rest of you are entertained, I'm happy for you. I'm just a little worried that the dude has some spare parts rattling up in that head of his.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:45 pm
  • hedgehawk wrote:After 12 pages, I'm left wondering if Fargohawk and BFS are the same person? So similar of writing styles. BFS rant in.....


    An interesting development to be certain.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:49 pm
  • hedgehawk wrote:After 12 pages, I'm left wondering if Fargohawk and BFS are the same person? So similar of writing styles. BFS rant in.....


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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:49 pm
  • bestfightstory wrote:I don't think one person in 12 pages has professed the most remote inkling of respect for nor admiration of Skip Bayless. But, thanks.


    That is a hilarious observation.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:51 pm
  • HawkAroundTheClock wrote:Ya know, I'm seeing a pattern. In every situation Richard Sherman finds himself in, he becomes a mirror. He's got a psychological game going on and everybody who presents a challenge finds his crosshairs. Think about it.

    Tom Brady starts the dialogue. Sherman ends it. (to great ado)
    Trent Williams makes an offer. Sherman accepts. (to great ado)
    Twitterers say he's not as good as Revis. He tweets his stats. (to great ado)
    Bourbon Street is rowdy and fun. So is Sherman. (etc)
    NFL AM is well-dressed, low-key, positive, and polite. So is Sherman. (blah blah)
    Skip Bayless is an insufferable prick. So is... (yadda yadda)

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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:56 pm
  • I'll be monitoring this closely . . . maybe check back at pgcnt 24
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:59 pm
  • Seahawks fans gave Walter Jones grief about his hold-outs. Yes, there will be a huge outcry from fans when Sherman's contract comes up. No, he isn't going to be giving any home town discounts.

    Until he violates organizational or NFL policies, he has freedom of speech to do as he wants. Does it make the followers of the team proud to see his persona? Not across the board. PC can ask him to tone it down, but it is still up the Sherman to go along.

    I think of DeAngelo Hall as well when I think of where Sherman's actions can take him. He probably isn't getting in the coach's face but his act looks to be going in the same line as Ochocinco, TO and Hall if he keeps it up. No signs that it will be changing anytime soon, so just keep making plays and when it comes time to re-do his contract, the team will have to decide how much he is worth.

    And for the poster that infered that Butkus was in the same mode as Sherman, that isn't what I remember. Those guys just tried to hurt you but most were from the John Wayne school of walking tall and speaking rarely. Joe Namath and Ali are more of the mode of what Sherman's dialogue mirrors.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:02 pm
  • Ninerguy wrote:Interesting read for 10+ pages.
    I expected Hawk fans would like anything Sherman does but I cannot see how more of you do not see how this was way overboard and crossed the line. I have spoken to a few of my Hawk friends and tbh they are sensible and dont really like that Sherm went crazy like that. He should do just what he mentioned, "Let the tape speak for itself"! He has got his 15+ minutes of fame and he will get his money in a few seasons.(wait til you have to pay that bill :P )

    My opinion is he completely reminds me of an even more crazed Terrel Owens, who never could just let his great play speak for him, instead he would seek out media attention and it always worked against him rather he saw it that way or not. Sharpie anyone?


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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:28 pm
  • Hawkfan509 wrote:
    Ninerguy wrote:Interesting read for 10+ pages.
    I expected Hawk fans would like anything Sherman does but I cannot see how more of you do not see how this was way overboard and crossed the line. I have spoken to a few of my Hawk friends and tbh they are sensible and dont really like that Sherm went crazy like that. He should do just what he mentioned, "Let the tape speak for itself"! He has got his 15+ minutes of fame and he will get his money in a few seasons.(wait til you have to pay that bill :P )

    My opinion is he completely reminds me of an even more crazed Terrel Owens, who never could just let his great play speak for him, instead he would seek out media attention and it always worked against him rather he saw it that way or not. Sharpie anyone?


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    Wake up Hawkfans. There was nothing good that came out of this interview, except that prick Bayless will probably get a raise because of the ratings


    I'm Hawknpeppa and it's my opinion that any posts that take this type of stance could be implying the sentiments of weak-tit sister. Sherm said what every player that's been dissed by that tool wishes he would have had the nutz to say. We should stand up a 'weak sh*t' forum especially for any posts of this nature. :roll:
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:34 pm
  • SeaMeat wrote:Now, if Sherm could somehow show up on the Nancy Grace show and hand that nasty loud mouth bitch the same treatment.


    THIS x 10000000000
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:36 pm
  • Hawkfan509 wrote:
    Ninerguy wrote:Interesting read for 10+ pages.
    I expected Hawk fans would like anything Sherman does but I cannot see how more of you do not see how this was way overboard and crossed the line. I have spoken to a few of my Hawk friends and tbh they are sensible and dont really like that Sherm went crazy like that. He should do just what he mentioned, "Let the tape speak for itself"! He has got his 15+ minutes of fame and he will get his money in a few seasons.(wait til you have to pay that bill :P )

    My opinion is he completely reminds me of an even more crazed Terrel Owens, who never could just let his great play speak for him, instead he would seek out media attention and it always worked against him rather he saw it that way or not. Sharpie anyone?


    I am Hawkfan509, and I approve this message!

    Wake up Hawkfans. There was nothing good that came out of this interview, except that prick Bayless will probably get a raise because of the ratings


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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:10 pm
  • Personally I wasn't a fan of it because although true, I felt it was mean and yeah not my cup of tea, regardless of what Bayless said.

    Now Sherman doing his thing on the field, hey that's football I'm all for it.

    Things like the audio valentines to Brady and Megatron, calling himself Optimus Prime, going on Bourbon Street and interviewing people. That's more funny and all in good fun. That's the Sherman I like.

    What I saw on first take, I kind of wish Sherman just was sarcastic with him and played it off like Bayless was some kid who didn't know anything about football and agreed with him the whole time. Like "Oh yeah, you're right, Richard Sherman is TOTALLY not in the same league" and just kept his cheesy grin the whole time. I think that would have been better.

    But that's just me.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:20 pm
  • Stories like these showoff such a parody within our sports culture. This is just one guy's opinion of another guy's opinion, and the ensuing comedy is the media coverage and fan reactions, which are basically more and more opinions about opinions. Some of us are interested in the thoughts of others to the point where it really just serves as a counterproductive process to actual thinking. Should Sherman have a problem with opinion-based punditry? Absolutely, everyone should and this angst shouldn't be limited to just sports. Did calling out a single member of the giant machine of baseless journalism accomplish anything other than distracting us from more important/equally less important things? I doubt it!
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:37 pm
  • Well this should be interesting. Sherman is acting like more of a diva than some of the most infamous diva's to ever play the game. These type of players usually end up wrecking havoc and become a major distraction in the locker room which causes teams to implode. As a fan of a team in the same division...I welcome his behavior for that exact reason as it is now crystal clear why other teams passed on him in the draft.

    The ironic thing is that if he was on a different team, I would imagine that most of you who claim to like his behavior would be feeling the exact opposite. Reading the posts in this thread, it does appear that some of your fans know that his behavior will probably have negative side effects for your team.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:47 pm
  • NinerLifer wrote:Well this should be interesting. Sherman is acting like more of a diva than some of the most infamous diva's to ever play the game. These type of players usually end up wrecking havoc and become a major distraction in the locker room which causes teams to implode. As a fan of a team in the same division...I welcome his behavior for that exact reason as it is now crystal clear why other teams passed on him in the draft.

    The ironic thing is that if he was on a different team, I would imagine that most of you who claim to like his behavior would be feeling the exact opposite. Reading the posts in this thread, it does appear that some of your fans know that his behavior will probably have negative side effects for your team.



    How is he acting like a diva? Is he overturning the bowl of M&M's in the greenrooms cause all the M&M's aren't all red? Is he throwing his teamates under the bus? Are you envious of how hard we are going to whoop up on yall for years to come?

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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:04 pm
  • He scared.
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Re: Sherman on ESPN first take. 12:30
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:06 pm
  • NinerLifer wrote:Well this should be interesting. Sherman is acting like more of a diva than some of the most infamous diva's to ever play the game. These type of players usually end up wrecking havoc and become a major distraction in the locker room which causes teams to implode. As a fan of a team in the same division...I welcome his behavior for that exact reason as it is now crystal clear why other teams passed on him in the draft.

    The ironic thing is that if he was on a different team, I would imagine that most of you who claim to like his behavior would be feeling the exact opposite. Reading the posts in this thread, it does appear that some of your fans know that his behavior will probably have negative side effects for your team.


    Well he didn't refer to himself as the greatest of all time.

    He didn't forget what city he played for and throw out homophobic remarks in an interview.

    He didn't throw a concussed starting QB playing the best football of his life under the bus.

    He didn't flip out on the sidelines, refuse to give an after game interview, and put the blame of a superbowl loss on a blown call.

    but hey, "Gobble, gobble, turkey!" Sherman's calling out of a well known media jackass that had been publicly crapping on him during the offseason is team destroying poison, lol. Thanks, 49er fan, for that incredible insight.
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