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Post subject: Re: Travesty alert: Schneider DOESNT win exec of year  Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:07 pm |
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Well the GM did come in and completely overhauled that roster. I think it was 26 of the 53 man roster were all new players he brought in, so it's not much of a robbery. They hit on some guys besides Luck, of course...that shouldn't even count. But TY Hilton, Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Brazill, Sowell, Ballard all contributed. And then of course, bringing in Pagano.
I think a couple years down the road and you look back at each respective bodies of work, Schneider will clearly be the winner, though...probably even the Exec of the Decade if such a thing existed.
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Post subject: Re: Travesty alert: Schneider DOESNT win exec of year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:14 pm |
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I have no indignation for subjective awards. It's nice to win a few, but really it means very little.
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Post subject: Re: Travesty alert: Schneider DOESNT win exec of year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:17 pm |
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Yeah this is odd. I've heard some decent arguments for Elway and the guy in Miami, but Indy? It's probably because they started 20 something rookies. But I still don't see how they did better than Seattle.
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Post subject: Re: Travesty alert: Schneider DOESNT win exec of year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:44 pm |
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Congratulations to the Colts GM for having the guts to make the most obvious move in the last 20 years of football.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:57 pm |
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Lets be honest here. We want John to win as much for the last three years as the last one year. But the Colts did win 11 games with a rookie and while switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Not bad at all. Neither Schneider or Grigson is a bad choice.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:05 pm |
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What you guys are saying:
The Seahawks are the best
All other teams suck
Both Schneider and Grigson did really good jobs, but he still put enough talent on a 2-14 team to take them to the playoffs. The Seahawks had a lot more talent this year so Schneider didn't do as much this year, Grigson should have won with Schneider as a close second
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:05 pm |
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Scottemojo wrote: Lets be honest here. We want John to win as much for the last three years as the last one year. But the Colts did win 11 games with a rookie and while switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Not bad at all. Neither Schneider or Grigson is a bad choice. I know, right? The only way Schneider should have been in contention at all is if he also went 11-5 with a rookie quarterback. And if Schneider had somehow lucked out in the draft with top OROY and DROY candidates, he just might have pulled it off. Might have taken at least one more playoff win than teams like Indy and Denver, though. _________________ I blog, I tweet. When I'm not writing or goofing around on Seahawks.NET.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:12 pm |
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Seahawk Sailor wrote: Scottemojo wrote: Lets be honest here. We want John to win as much for the last three years as the last one year. But the Colts did win 11 games with a rookie and while switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Not bad at all. Neither Schneider or Grigson is a bad choice. I know, right? The only way Schneider should have been in contention at all is if he also went 11-5 with a rookie quarterback. And if Schneider had somehow lucked out in the draft with top OROY and DROY candidates, he just might have pulled it off. Might have taken at least one more playoff win than teams like Indy and Denver, though. That award is voted on before the playoffs. And like I said, the Colts did switch defense schemes this year. Our D was in pretty good shape to begin the year. I would love it if Schneider won, but he didn't. However, Schneider is getting a Bill Belichick reputation for personnel inside the league. I heard Amani Toomer say that all new GMs would be smart to just figure out who John Schneider likes instead of scouting players. Where our GM used to lose picks moving around in the draft targeting boy scouts, this guy accumulates picks.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:34 pm |
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Eh, this doesn't bother me to much. Most of this team was built in 2010-11. Wilson and Wagner were great picks and really put us over the top, but the Colts were completely overhauled, much like Schneider did here in 2010. Luck was clearly the main reason for the Colts turnaround (that and their cakewalk schedule,) but still, going from 2-14 to 11-5 while completely overhauling the roster is impressive.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:03 pm |
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Definitely agree that Schneider was more deserving, but people need to quit pretending that all Grigson did was draft Luck. Grigson was deserving, definitely.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:39 pm |
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Wasn't their schedule ranked like #32 in terms of difficulty?
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:53 pm |
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Didn't their GM get like 50% new players on the roster?
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:55 pm |
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These kinds of accolades usually precede a fall off in performance for executives in other businesses. I don't know if that happens in the NFL but at least we don't have to find out the hard way. Being the best is better than being named the best.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:00 pm |
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If I'm reading this right, isn't this the Sporting News exec of the year, and not the official AP award?
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:03 pm |
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misfit wrote: If I'm reading this right, isn't this the Sporting News exec of the year, and not the official AP award? I think you're right, actually. Looking into it...
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:07 pm |
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After a couple google searches, it appears there is no AP award for Exec of the Year. So maybe this is as official as it gets? I have no idea.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:09 pm |
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AP doesn't name an Executive of the Year. The Sporting News award is considered the premiere one for the category.
I just saw the voting breakdown:
Ryan Grigson - Indianapolis - 9
John Elway - Denver - 8
John Schnieder - Seattle - 3
Bruce Allen - Washington - 2
Rick Smith- Houston - 2
WOW. That. Is. Ridiculous.
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:12 pm |
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DavidSeven wrote: AP doesn't name an Executive of the Year. The Sporting News award is considered the premiere one for the category.
I just saw the voting breakdown:
Ryan Grigson - Indianapolis - 9
John Elway - Denver - 8
John Schnieder - Seattle - 3
Bruce Allen - Washington - 2
Rick Smith- Houston - 2
WOW. That. Is. Ridiculous. 
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Post subject: Re: John Schneider not named top executive of the year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:25 pm |
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Wow, they really missed their marks.
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Post subject: Re: Travesty alert: Schneider DOESNT win exec of year Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:12 pm |
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-The Glove- wrote: Well the GM did come in and completely overhauled that roster. I think it was 26 of the 53 man roster were all new players he brought in, so it's not much of a robbery. They hit on some guys besides Luck, of course...that shouldn't even count. But TY Hilton, Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Brazill, Sowell, Ballard all contributed. And then of course, bringing in Pagano.
I think a couple years down the road and you look back at each respective bodies of work, Schneider will clearly be the winner, though...probably even the Exec of the Decade if such a thing existed. Didn't john do this same thing two years in a row? I guess we will see soon enough who builds a better club.
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