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Post subject: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:06 pm |
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http://www.hawkblogger.com/2013/01/rank ... -1-57.htmlI don't usually read his stuff, but I thought this was semi-interesting. He rates them on factors including "age", "health", "impact to date", "potential growth", and "hard to replace". Then each player is given an overall score. I'm not sure I agree with some of these. Personally I think Leon is too low. I also think Bruce is a little high, and I've been one of his supporters. Thoughts?
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:22 pm |
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Marshawn Lynch the 20th most important Seahawk? Controversial.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:29 pm |
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Interesting idea, but I think his "potential growth" category causes him to overvalue the younger players -- leads to situations where guys like Scruggs and Sweezy are ranked above Lynch. Which, IMHO, is a bit crazy.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:29 pm |
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Hawkspur wrote: Marshawn Lynch the 20th most important Seahawk? Controversial. Especially with the likes of Jeremy Lane, Greg Scruggs, Anthony McCoy and J.R. Sweezy ahead of him. Meh.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:31 pm |
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FlyingGreg wrote: Hawkspur wrote: Marshawn Lynch the 20th most important Seahawk? Controversial. Especially with the likes of Jeremy Lane, Greg Scruggs, Anthony McCoy and J.R. Sweezy ahead of him. Meh. Not even gonna bother clicking the link after reading this.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:32 pm |
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HawkFanNC wrote: Interesting idea, but I think his "potential growth" category causes him to overvalue the younger players -- leads to situations where guys like Scruggs and Sweezy are ranked above Lynch. Which, IMHO, is a bit crazy. That was the flaw in the formula for me as well. If a player is one of the elite in their position in the league, what does their potential growth matter?
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:33 pm |
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Jon Ryan is extremely underrated, he is one of the best punters in the game.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:36 pm |
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bellingerga wrote: FlyingGreg wrote: Hawkspur wrote: Marshawn Lynch the 20th most important Seahawk? Controversial. Especially with the likes of Jeremy Lane, Greg Scruggs, Anthony McCoy and J.R. Sweezy ahead of him. Meh. Not even gonna bother clicking the link after reading this. Well when you take into account his reasoning it makes a lot more sense. Not that I'm saying he's right or I agree, but it's not necessarily as outlandish as it sounds.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:37 pm |
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Hawkspur wrote: HawkFanNC wrote: Interesting idea, but I think his "potential growth" category causes him to overvalue the younger players -- leads to situations where guys like Scruggs and Sweezy are ranked above Lynch. Which, IMHO, is a bit crazy. That was the flaw in the formula for me as well. If a player is one of the elite in their position in the league, what does their potential growth matter? Agreed. Guys like Mebane need to be way higher.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:38 pm |
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When I saw Sweezy is the 16th best player on the team (ahead of Lynch, Clemons, Bryant, Tate, Browner, and Mebane) I closed the window.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:40 pm |
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Maybe I missed this, but I also don't understand what the final score means. Most important player? Best player? I see no meaning attached to the number...
I understand what factors go into determining the final score, but I don't get what exactly that score represents.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:48 pm |
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He just tweeted this: I think some folks are mistaking the list as "who is the best player?" It is really, "most likely to be on the roster in the next 5 years."Now I kinda feel like this list is just overstating the obvious. 
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:00 pm |
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razgriz737 wrote: He just tweeted this: I think some folks are mistaking the list as "who is the best player?" It is really, "most likely to be on the roster in the next 5 years."Now I kinda feel like this list is just overstating the obvious.  If that's the case, then why did he rank them by perceived value to the team? Sounds like he's backpedaling.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:03 pm |
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AbsolutNET wrote: razgriz737 wrote: He just tweeted this: I think some folks are mistaking the list as "who is the best player?" It is really, "most likely to be on the roster in the next 5 years."Now I kinda feel like this list is just overstating the obvious.  If that's the case, then why did he rank them by perceived value to the team? Sounds like he's backpedaling. Good point. No matter which way he spins it, the list just seems flawed in a number of different ways.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:11 pm |
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Lynch is a stud, but RB's still a position where a team should be able to chew up a youngun on their first deal. Lynch's running style makes him elite and unique. That style was necessary to make the 2010, 2011 and early 2012's team even respectable. Now that the Seahawks have a QB, his running style may just be a tasty cherry on top.
If Lynch blew his knee out in preseason next year, it'd suck, but with Cable and Wilson, the offense is still top 10. You couldn't say that before.
Wish blogger would quit being a fairy and own it.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:11 pm |
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I just kind of glanced at it, but his system really undervalues Frank Omiyale big time. He and Flynn were probably the two best pure backup players on the team this last season.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:02 pm |
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Not too bad. I understand Lynch and his rating. The longevity of a RB is not that great. I would have put Rice higher. It seems he IMO overvalued potential for some players
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:50 pm |
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Given positional value, I don't like seeing Okung below Wagner and Chancellor.
Farwell feels too low, he's the best at what he does and should be able to do it for a long time.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:15 am |
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lol @ Lane over Browner.
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Post subject: Re: Hawk Blogger Ranks the Seahawks Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:43 am |
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Throwdown wrote: lol @ Lane over Browner. He's not saying Lane is better than Browner. He's saying that potentially in 2-3 years Lane could be a starter and Browner could be retired.
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