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Post subject: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:19 am |
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I know some will want to keep Flynn, but I think he gets traded. It makes to much cap sense, and it also goes along with this FO doing "right" by their players.
Flynn wants to start, and I think the Seahawks FO will do whatever they can, within reason, to facilitate Flynn's preference. I'm a proud Seahawks fan for a lot of reasons, but I was really proud of how the FO treated Tavaris last preseason. He was traded instead of being released outright; to give him some dignity (maybe there's a better word choice there) on the way out. Tjax EARNED that type of exit...he's one classy and tough SOB.
With all that, who would YOU want the Seahawks to bring in to back up Wilson? To keep this hypothetical within reasonable boundaries lets restrict it to 1 vet FA and 1 late round draft pick. Here’s a list of FA’s;
Brian Hoyer – ARI Luke McCown – ATL Joe Flacco – BAL Tarvaris Jackson – BUF Tyler Thigpen – BUF Derek Anderson – CAR Jason Campbell – CHI Josh McCown – CHI Bruce Gradkowski – CIN Drew Stanton – IND Brady Quinn – KC Pat Devlin – MIA – (Ex) Matt Moore – MIA Chase Daniel – NO David Carr – NYG Matt Leinart – OAK Charlie Batch – PIT Byron Leftwich – PIT Kellen Clemens – STL Rex Grossman – WAS Vince Young – FA Sage Rosenfels – FA Seneca Wallace – FA Donovan McNabb – FA A.J. Feeley – FA Troy Smith – FA Chris Redman – FA John Beck – FA Stephen McGee – FA Jordan Palmer – FA J.P. Loseman – FA
Of those, I’d LOVE Chase Daniels – but it would be a lateral move for him. So, as much as he’s ripped here, I’d prefer Tjack.
For the developmental QB, I’d REALLY prefer Denard Robinson just to be a nice toy. But, there’s no way I’d trust him to play a game or two at the position. So, I’m going to go Colin Klein or….crybaby’s brother Jordan Rogers. Picking Rogers on a gut hunch. So my QB depth chart would be;
1)Wilson 2)Tjack 3)JRogers
You?
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:32 am |
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There should be a fair number of current starters released too no?
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:34 am |
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I dont know Salamander.
Alex Smith, Tebow, Shaub come to mind.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:34 am |
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Matt Flynn is the future and thus cannot be traded
(Trolly face)
If they move him though I imagine they'd want someone athletic enough to run the same offense as Wilson in the event he got injured. Tarvaris could probably do that.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:38 am |
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from that list I'd take Joe Flacco as a backup and draft a 3rd string QB
that would work right??
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:38 am |
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Hasselbeck wrote: Matt Flynn is the future and this cannot be traded Ha. You should REALLY try to do the same thing next year with another player and position, that you did with Flynn this year. Maybe Obo or Butler? Every year argue with all of us over someone who should be starting. It'd be hysterical - and by that time no one will know its a ruse. BIG PROPS to you for laughing at yourself and allowing us to laugh too. For real, big props.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:39 am |
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I'd take Gradkowski and Matt Moore off that list for certain.
Not sure about Chase Daniel.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:40 am |
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I think Matt Flynn will stay, but I won't feel too good if T-jack ever has to start again for us. He's a warrior, and can handle the hits, but we already know he is completely unreliable when it comes to crunchtime and we need to make a comeback. PC and JS like a QB that tilts the field, and can you truly tilt the field by not willing the team to a comeback?
I think maybe the FO will look for a sorta Russell Wilson player that falls again. Of course, Russell Wilson himself is a generational player, with his height succeeding how he is, so it will probably be a more flawed player. Still, gimme a developmental guy that can be traded later for maybe a 4th or so, like Flynn a little. This FO likes draft picks, that's for sure.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:41 am |
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Moore - okay. Gradkowski? Dude HAS to be in his 30's, right?
I maybe wrong, but Chase is fairly athletic AND ran similar schemes at Mizz. Right?
And, with TJack, I think he'd be surprising in a situation where he's not the starter. Different mindset, entirely. There's zero pressure. I have nothing other than my uterus to back that up though.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:41 am |
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I would draft one or two rookie QBs with a similar skill set to Russell in the later rounds. Let them develop .... thats what Green Bay does.
We have 10 picks.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:49 am |
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pehawk wrote: Moore - okay. Gradkowski? Dude HAS to be in his 30's, right?
I maybe wrong, but Chase is fairly athletic AND ran similar schemes at Mizz. Right?
And, with TJack, I think he'd be surprising in a situation where he's not the starter. Different mindset, entirely. There's zero pressure. I have nothing other than my uterus to back that up though. I wouldn't say mizzou's scheme was similar to ours. It was a lot more 'spread-y' if I'm remembering right. I like Gradkowski because of his age and experience. Like Garcia was for a few years, he can be a very competent backup who could win some games on an otherwise good team if called upon.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:53 am |
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I'd be happy to go with one of our old backups and see if they can run the read option. I do not want a pocket passer as a backup, I'd rather keep our offense consistent. Bring back TJack and Seneca Wallace and draft a project in the mid-rounds!
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:56 am |
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I'm with ya on Seneca. Dude wont take sacks, throw picks, or put the team in a bad position. In Cleveland Delhomme openly ripped him for being checkdown Charlie. Seneca would put up stats like 20/25 for 98 yards, routinely there. With the talent the Hawks have, that's PERFECT. But, I think he's too old for this FO's taste at this point.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:59 am |
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but isn't old good until a bonafide project evolves? Both TJack and Seneca have relatively little wear on their treads for their age. At least they have experience and can manage the game. Bring them both in to battle for the backup in the new offense.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:01 am |
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Matt Moore would be ideal. I would even consider Troy Smith....only because Pete talked about getting a backup that can do some of the things Russ can do. To me that means they are looking for a little athleticism. From the draft, I want Taylor Martinez as a project/3rd string guy (If he were to declare, which it is probably likely he returns for his senior year). Perfect skill set to run a similar offense if Russ were to go down.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:06 am |
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Ooooohhh, Taylor Martinez! Great call! Forgot about that dude.
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:06 am |
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I feel like I'm gonna get flamed for this, but maybe Pete could turn a guy like Vince Young into a serviceable backup.
No?...ok I'll show myself out...
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:08 am |
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:09 am |
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Hey, I wanted VYoung brought in in 2011 for a look.
There's a creepy poster/stalker here who brings up the fact I wanted Vince brought in for a look, about every other day, to garner my affections. So, dont feel bad about that thought (but you might need a cease and desist).
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Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want? Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:11 am |
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I just don't think Vince Young's potential reward is worth the risk. I'm not diametrically opposed to it as many others on here are, but I just feel like there are much better options available for us without the risk of being a complete headcase.
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