You'll have to forgive some of the more idiotic Skins fans. Many are delusional and egocentric about their team like many other fans around the NFL. (including Seahawks) The thing that bothers me the most about idiot Skins fans is that they are stuck in the past (Example: burggold75 on page one of this thread). Yeah, its generally those guys who's ages are 35 and up. Still talking about the Super Bowls as if they mean something now. News flash. They don't. Twenty years since a mere sniff at a Super Bowl means your team is garbage. If a Skins fan brings up the past 3 Super Bowls, it means he doesn't have a leg to stand on so he's reverting back to history. That's how you know you won the argument, unless that argument is who has the most Super Bowls. From top to bottom, Seattle has been a better franchise this past decade. They've made the playoffs a lot more than the Skins and even have wins to show for it. Hell, they were a poorly officiated game away from winning a Super Bowl, which is more than we have. We have nothing. Zilch. We had a old Gibbs 2.0 lead us to the playoffs by barely squeaking in on a Wildcard, only to get our asses stomped by Seattle. In that process, he pissed away draft picks galore, traded all-pro CBs for a RB, and signed stupid ass contracts to many players. He along with Vinny Cerrato devastated the talent and depth of this team for the future. I say all of this and I grew up watching those Super Bowl teams with Gibbs 1.0.

Finally, with the help of good management, our ship has been steered in the right direction with a great future on the horizon. We have one of the youngest teams in the NFL, and I expect them to get better. Winning the division was gravy this year, and most rationale Skins fans didn't think this was going to happen at the beginning of the season. Hell, many were calling for Shanahan's firing at the bye week. The thing about our fans is that they are just like Dan Snyder. No patience, always willing to make stupid ass moves, and generally ignorant as hell when it comes to football. The irony of it is that these same guys hate Dan Snyder for being exactly how they are. I'm sure your team has these same type of fans.

All in all, don't visit Extremeskins if you want a logical debate on the Seahawks/Redskins game. The site if packed full of idiots, and its why their moderators are constantly working the ban buttons. Too many idiots, too little time. (pretty much a signature from their head mod TK) Mind you know, there are knowledgeable people on that site that do know and understand football, it's just a shame the idiots overshadow these by their glaring stupidity.

'46 is from http://www.thehogs.net. Good dude!

The poster that made the Sean Taylor comment was that lying asshole Matt Wolf, one of the guys that helped Todd start this site.

By then he had completely alienated everyone here and had his own site where he made those comments.

Somehow since he had been around here for a long time it got transfered to us. He got so many violent threats he went off the air with his own site and ran and hid at his parents on Long Beach Penn at Ocean Shores.

So that was one guy, not a fan base.

And that was also the same guy who changed his name to "Mason" and spent the week prior to the 2008 Hawks-Giants game in NY making 9/11 jokes on his own site, which made a couple of national headlines like "Seahawk fans mocking 9/11" and whatnot. So you can understand how nobody here has wanted anything to do with that clown for a long time.

Im from Extremeskins. The fans there are like the websites name: Extreme.

But we're not all that way. I enjoy logic based debates so...

When you get into "My team is better than yours becasue your team sucks!", I dont have time for that garbage.

You'll have to forgive some of the more idiotic Skins fans. Many are delusional and egocentric about their team like many other fans around the NFL. (including Seahawks) The thing that bothers me the most about idiot Skins fans is that they are stuck in the past (Example: burggold75 on page one of this thread). Yeah, its generally those guys who's ages are 35 and up. Still talking about the Super Bowls as if they mean something now. News flash. They don't. Twenty years since a mere sniff at a Super Bowl means your team is garbage. If a Skins fan brings up the past 3 Super Bowls, it means he doesn't have a leg to stand on so he's reverting back to history. That's how you know you won the argument, unless that argument is who has the most Super Bowls. From top to bottom, Seattle has been a better franchise this past decade. They've made the playoffs a lot more than the Skins and even have wins to show for it. Hell, they were a poorly officiated game away from winning a Super Bowl, which is more than we have. We have nothing. Zilch. We had a old Gibbs 2.0 lead us to the playoffs by barely squeaking in on a Wildcard, only to get our asses stomped by Seattle. In that process, he pissed away draft picks galore, traded all-pro CBs for a RB, and signed stupid ass contracts to many players. He along with Vinny Cerrato devastated the talent and depth of this team for the future. I say all of this and I grew up watching those Super Bowl teams with Gibbs 1.0.

Finally, with the help of good management, our ship has been steered in the right direction with a great future on the horizon. We have one of the youngest teams in the NFL, and I expect them to get better. Winning the division was gravy this year, and most rationale Skins fans didn't think this was going to happen at the beginning of the season. Hell, many were calling for Shanahan's firing at the bye week. The thing about our fans is that they are just like Dan Snyder. No patience, always willing to make stupid ass moves, and generally ignorant as hell when it comes to football. The irony of it is that these same guys hate Dan Snyder for being exactly how they are. I'm sure your team has these same type of fans.

All in all, don't visit Extremeskins if you want a logical debate on the Seahawks/Redskins game. The site if packed full of idiots, and its why their moderators are constantly working the ban buttons. Too many idiots, too little time. (pretty much a signature from their head mod TK) Mind you now, there are knowledgeable people on that site that do know and understand football, it's just a shame the idiots overshadow these by their glaring stupidity.

I think the view of Seahawk fans stem from this article in the WP back in 2008.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02696.html



I bet you can create a article like this from a visit to any NFL stadium in the country. (including Fed Ex) Alcohol creates many problems with crazy/rabid fans.

I think the point is you can't even have a reasonable discussion, or any discussion for that matter on the site. I'm over it, the site is meant for fan bluster which is fine. Looks like we have enough skins fans heading over here to have the reasonable debate.

Heck you can have an unreasonable debate here. The moderators pride themselves on very rarely banning people. (probably would take making threats against fans or the like).

I got banned from ES years ago when I posed the question of how Snyder keeps his woman satisfied and whether he and Vinny Cerrato were secret lovers.

You have to remember, ExtremeSkins is sponsored by the franchise and hence any comments critical of ownership or critical of the franchise are snuffed out. One thing that really put me off.