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Andrew Luck 30%  30%  [ 36 ]
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Just want to talk about the QBs that are up for ROY, why do RG3 and Luck have a higher QBR than RW even though RW has better stats then Luck and better record than RG3? I guess I don't understand that rating, because if it is suppose to be the total qb rating, wouldn't wins, as well as stats matter? (oh and how in the heck did Cutler have a higher QBR than RW?????

If you were to rate the QB's today, who would be your choice for ROY (try to put your Seahawks shades away if you can).

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Russell has outplayed all of them. Homer right here *points at self*

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Weren't the Colts the worst team in the league last year... yea i love RW but Luck.

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I would say Robert griffin currently. The only thing Russ beats him in is tds

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I voted Wilson, but it was more a homer vote. He has better stats, but I also think he has better weapons all around him.

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Weren't the Colts the worst team in the league last year... yea i love RW but Luck.


Colts weren't as bad as ESPN and everyone else likes to let on IMO. They were in a lot of the losses but the record obviously is all that matters.

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I would vote for Wilson,,,but I also have the benefit of watching all his games and being a Seahawks fan.

I think Wilson comes in third behind RG3 and Luck in a national vote.

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If the Colts keep winning it will, and should be, Andrew Luck. But I still wouldnt trade him straight across for our guy right now. And at this point Russell Wilson is probably the best value in the NFL.

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If the Colts keep winning it will, and should be, Andrew Luck. But I still wouldnt trade him straight across for our guy right now. And at this point Russell Wilson is probably the best value in the NFL.


Completely agree. I know Wilson sometimes runs out of the pocket when it is not necessary, but a vast majority of the time it is. He is doing all of this with crappy blocking in front of him (and sometimes no running game).

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Wilson. But Griffin is about a hair behind him. And Luck ain't doing bad either.

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I consider the national media will go for luck because thats all you hear about Luck or RG3. Had to go with luck because the colts sucked last year. Also playing good with out their coach on the side line. But its a close close race between all three. I think Luck has overcome the most but also think Wilson does not get the credit he deserves because he is just as good if not better. A 3rd round steal if I ever saw one love this kids game. Shit almost makes me cry for joy cause I have been a Hawk fan for a long time and I have waited for us to have a bonafide stud at qb for a long time.

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I don't think Wilson will, but I think he should. All 3 are pretty good, but Luck is a bit overrated, he has the completion % and turnover numbers of Sanchez.

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Tie between Luck and Wilson. I'm just waiting for RG3 to find himself sidelined.

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Why does Luck have a better QBR than Wilson BTW? How the heck do they figure that usually stat out?

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I get people arguing between RW and Luck, but how can you put RW ahead of RG3? I'm nto saying I'd take RG3 over RW for the long run, but RG3 IMO is clearly having the superior year.


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jkitsune wrote:
I get people arguing between RW and Luck, but how can you put RW ahead of RG3? I'm nto saying I'd take RG3 over RW for the long run, but RG3 IMO is clearly having the superior year.


I think the only thing that separates them is running. I believe RW is a better passer, but RG3 is better with this feet

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I voted RGIII, but if I had a vote for OROY, I would vote for Wilson.


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seahawksfanatic000 wrote:
I would say Robert griffin currently. The only thing Russ beats him in is tds



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1) Griffin
2a) Martin
2b) Wilson
4) Luck.

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I get people arguing between RW and Luck, but how can you put RW ahead of RG3? I'm nto saying I'd take RG3 over RW for the long run, but RG3 IMO is clearly having the superior year.


I think the only thing that separates them is running. I believe RW is a better passer, but RG3 is better with this feet


You say that, but based on what metric?


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RG3 is RGOverrated. Luck's the real deal though me thinks. It'll come down to how they perform down the stretch but luck will get the nod on name recognition (good thing Rusty likely doesn't give a rip anyway).

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ESPN has already annointed Luck ROY because Boomer on Sportscenter was raving about him even tho he couldn't complete half of his 54 pass attempts. Yes he threw for 4 TD's but also threw 3 picks. I'm betting Rdub would have similar #'s without the picks had he attempted 54 passes.

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I don't really put much stock in the stats but ESPN seems to be skipping the two touchdowns RW had today. They list him at 17 td's for the season and 25 projected , but by my count he has 19 and every indication is that he could break Peyton Mannings rookie record of 26. That in and of itself is huge to me.

Regardless, if you were to ask me (you didn't) Wilson would get my vote for team MVP at the very least. He is leading this team by the scruff of its neck to the playoff's, and he's doing it with few mistakes.

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If you asked who should be rookie of the year based on performance per draft position Wilson should win it hands down. He wasn't sexy during the draft, he has not been sexy during the season, every first round pick has had more media coverage because every media outlet has their experts credibility on the line and they have to hype them. The play by play guys and game analysts are more in toon with how they are playing.

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RG3 is RGOverrated. Luck's the real deal though me thinks. It'll come down to how they perform down the stretch but luck will get the nod on name recognition (good thing Rusty likely doesn't give a rip anyway).


You say that. Based on what metric?

I love RW as much as the next guy. If it were legal in the state of California I'd consider marrying him. The dude is so incredibly baller I can't believe he's a Seahawk. This is not at all about Russ.

I just don't see any objective evidence that RG3 is over-rated or should lose the award to RW. He looks good when I've watched him play. His passing and rushing stats are better. He's on a worse overall team than the Hawks, so arguably it's more impressive that his stats are better.

I understand the statistical argument with Luck, at least. But RG3? I know people are concerned about his durability, but someone enlighten me about why he's over-rated this year.


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Hate to say it but RG3 easily.
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I honestly think draft position should be taken into account when determining the ROY, even though I know it isn't. If you take a guy with the #1 overall pick and he turns out to be good, that's one thing. But for a guy like Wilson to be drafted in the 3rd round and have the kind of season he is having is almost unheard of. That should factor into the vote, IMHO.

But then, I thought the same thing in 2005 when Shawne Merriman won DROY over Lofa Tatupu. The league feels differently, and either Luck or RGIII will win the award as a result.


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You know what? I really don't care about hardware for Seahawks players, and I don't think Wilson does, either. Frankly, I'd rather he win Super Bowl MVP.

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Evil_Shenanigans wrote:
I don't really put much stock in the stats but ESPN seems to be skipping the two touchdowns RW had today. They list him at 17 td's for the season and 25 projected , but by my count he has 19 and every indication is that he could break Peyton Mannings rookie record of 26. That in and of itself is huge to me.

Regardless, if you were to ask me (you didn't) Wilson would get my vote for team MVP at the very least. He is leading this team by the scruff of its neck to the playoff's, and he's doing it with few mistakes.


Never trust ESPN with anything I've learned over time. NFL.com has RW at 19 Tds

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To me, at this point Luck wins it because clearly RW is no longer a rookie. It wouldn't be fair.

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