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Nice to see the shout out on Donte Moncrief, good choice and I'd be happy with him in the second for sure (based solely on what we've seen and how he projects) but a lot can change over the course of a year for sure
HighlandHawk":346rmcd1 said:Nice to see the shout out on Donte Moncrief, good choice and I'd be happy with him in the second for sure (based solely on what we've seen and how he projects) but a lot can change over the course of a year for sure
SDHawk":1tm0vi2c said:Assumptions:
CB-Brandon Browner is franchised
WR-Golden Tate allowed to walk
WR-Doug Baldwin traded to Colts for 4th Rounder
WR-Sidney Rice's contract is re-structured
TE-Zach Miller's contract is re-structured
Cuts:
DE-Red Bryant
DE-Chris Clemons
Other Significant Losses:
DE-Michael Bennett
FB-Michael Robinson
CB-Antoine Winfield
RT-Breno Giacomini
CB-Walter Thurmond
SS-Jeron Johnson
OG-Paul McQuistan
QB-Brady Quinn
Week one the last season he was out injured if I remember correctlyMissing_Clink":2d0r7au1 said:Has Tate ever even been hurt?
Pandion Haliaetus":midc3siq said:But kicker for Browner is, if the Seahawks make the effort to keep the "Legion of Boom" together, could that make a big difference as to if Richard Sherman would sign for 12 million per if we had signed Browner back committing the Seahawks to keep the league's best 2ndary together as opposed to Sherman signing for 16+ million had we just let Browner go for nothing.
Pandion Haliaetus":midc3siq said:I assume the Seahawks should keep two of Bryant, Bennett, and McDaniel.
Pandion Haliaetus":midc3siq said:I assume the Seahawks should keep one of Winfield and Thurmond.
Pandion Haliaetus":midc3siq said:I also see the Seahawks keeping one of Giacomini or McQuistan.
Pandion Haliaetus":midc3siq said:If Rice restructures, Seahawks can keep Tate and Baldwin for at least one more year. But I agree at least one of Rice, Tate, or Baldwin will be gone from this team unfortunately in 2014. My guess would be Baldwin. Rice, Tate, and Harvin could become an amazing trio and having Tate and Harvin on the field with Lynch is just devastating towards opposing defenders.
SDHawk":2l0pbymx said:This was a major point of consideration leading me to speculate that Browner would be tagged.
Both ET and Sherm have been very clear about their desire to keep the LOB together and Sherm has recently stated that BB was his equal and deserved to be paid the same. While that might not be our reality, it is Sherm's reality and accommodating this could work out for all parties involved. We'll be negotiating Sherm and ET's extensions next off-season and my feeling is that franchising Browner will give us leverage. While $10mm may be a premium for Browner, it is just for a season and could potentially save us a boatload on Sherm and ET. Even if we don't commit to BB long-term, franchising BB furthers the FO's reputation as one that takes care of its players.
SDHawk":2l0pbymx said:I think we may keep Tony McDaniel. IMO Bryant and Bennett are too rich.
SDHawk":2l0pbymx said:I don't see it. Both are unremarkable and my feeling is Person, Bowie, Moffit, Seymour, Sweezy, et. al. could fill in admirably at lower cost.
SDHawk":2l0pbymx said:I love Tate but you've got to see the situation for what it is.
1. Rice and Harvin have a history with Bevell.
2. Golden Tate will be an unrestricted free agent.
3. We can't afford to pay Golden Tate what he is worth, which is probably in excess of $5mm per year.
4. Both Harvin and Harper were acquired prior to Tate's contract year.
5. Harvin and Harper offer skills that are much more similar to Tate than Sidney Rice.
I can't say I agree on the discount theory. I think Sherman will want to get paid, and he'll have a certain dollar amount. Sherman is a stand up guy, but lets not think he doesn't have an ego. I think that in FA, he'll handle his business in a very similar manner to what we just saw from Revis.
I would wait until I see McDaniel play for us before I pencil him in. Also, I was under the impression that McDaniel was strictly a 3-tech. If Bryant and Bennett both leave, who becomes the new 5-tech? I guess it would be Greg Scruggs, though they appeared to be grooming Scruggs for more of a pure 3-tech role last I checked. Or maybe the draft a rookie and start him.
Of course, if I'm wrong and Giacomini is getting big offers from other teams, then Seattle has to evaluate their roster at that point and decide what's best. Right now our backup group is physically talented but inexperienced. I also think Sweezy is our long term RG, though it's true that he has the physical tools to play tackle.
...blah blah blah... some stats about why Tate is awesome.... blah blah blah...
Right now, Tate is one of our most valuable players on offense, while also being one of the few Seahawks who remains under the radar nationally. It's not very often that you can be a championship caliber team and be able to keep one of your best players at a reasonable rate of cost. But that's the way things are headed for Tate right now, and if it remains so I think Seattle would be wise to retain him.
Attyla the Hawk":2l13dy2u said:I really would hate it if we went DE early in the draft. Isn't Irvin/Bennet/Clemons/Avril enough? Do we really need another edge rusher while not addressing interior rush?
I'd really like for us to stop acquiring light DEs turned SAMs in order to upgrade our interior pass rush. It's simply ignoring the problem.
Agreed. His combination of explosion on the snap, coupled with his ability to use his arms to get a decisive advantage early in his rush is amazing. I watched him just after watching Ra'shede Hageman and the difference in quality is instantly recognizable. And that quality doesn't diminish whether he's lined up over the guard or outside the tackle.
Lynch is one I'll be expecting to be an absolute beast. He could easily play his way out of our scope come draft day.