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Just tweeted his extension.
5/68
45 guaranteed.
Wow.
5/68
45 guaranteed.
Wow.
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MizzouHawkGal
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And now how does the Sherman deal look?
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After taking a corner 8th overall they also overpay for Haden. The highest paid corner in the league? Haden? Really?
SMH @ the browns as always.
SMH @ the browns as always.
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We got an absolute steal of a deal on Sherman. And this is why you get it done early, rather than wait as so many here stupidly adviced. It pays to be the bar setter, because these deals escalate quickly. Sherm is 3x the CB that Haden is and is now making less gtd money only because he signed his deal first.
Thank goodness we got wise, wise dudes in our F.O.
Thank goodness we got wise, wise dudes in our F.O.
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You guys are selling Haden short. Dude is a stud. I'd still put Sherman as the best, but Haden isn't far off. Dude is balls.
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I like him better then Peterson. They may get something brewing there in Cleveland who knows?SacHawk2.0":2m1p4v8i said:
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After Haden and Peterson the Sherman deal is going to look absolutely genius. Sherman is still the best, he got the fewest targets and STILL the highest interceptions but Haden and Peterson are deserving of big deals too.
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't but hopefully Sherman won't hold out like Revis did for the Jets to get that 'highest' mark.
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't but hopefully Sherman won't hold out like Revis did for the Jets to get that 'highest' mark.
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He's a very good corner, but damn, they overpaid.
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A product is worth what the market will bear. In that sense, I don't think they over paid. I just think we got a great deal because Sherman really loves it here. And it took a bit more for Cleveland because they're Cleveland.
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SacHawk2.0":25v5r5lr said:
Great player, but those numbers are ridiculous for his skill level IMO. On pure cover skills and game changing ability, I'm taking Sherman and Revis ahead of him by a mile. Factoring in ST play, I'm also definitely taking Peterson well ahead of Haden.
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A nice theory, but in reality the quip about how a sucker and their money are soon parted is more accurate. Something's worth whatever you can get for it, including selling fake electronics at a 10,000% markup in gas station parking lots and the like.SacHawk2.0":3tvoqs8o said:
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GoHawks":1hkbcil9 said:Richard Sherman @RSherman_25 2h
Want what I got? Get the stats I got! Least targeted. #opinionvsfact
That's not even counting the fact he didn't start in year 1 until halfway through the season, where he promptly finished with 4 INT's. Basically he always averages 8 INT's over 16 games.
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That's not an impressive list of receivers. Outside of Green, Nelson, and Brown, those are some very average receivers he covered. That they even listed Torrey Smith negates any point they were trying to make.SacHawk2.0":v3rnfa8n said:
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Out of curiosity, how does Sherman stack up in the same categories listed for Haden. We know Sherman faced Fitzgerald twice, Crabtree twice, Andre Johnson, and probably a few others I'm missing
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The big issue the NFLN and ESPN analysts hit Sherman with is that he doesn't shadow the #1 WR all over the field. It is what Prime told him he would like to see more of. Doesn't matter to those yahoos that the Seahawks defense changes for no man, it is what all these guys use to measure what they consider a shut-down corner.
That is why Haden, Revis and Peterson get so much love. It is what the skins' DeAngelo used to pump himself up. You can argue until you are blue in the face but these types will not change how they judge corners. Plus in Prime's case, it keeps the worship coming his way long after his time in the game.
That is why Haden, Revis and Peterson get so much love. It is what the skins' DeAngelo used to pump himself up. You can argue until you are blue in the face but these types will not change how they judge corners. Plus in Prime's case, it keeps the worship coming his way long after his time in the game.
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Sherman's Extension:
4 years
14.5 per year
69% of the money is guaranteed
Haden's Extension:
5 years
13.6 per year
66% guaranteed
Basically Haden took a longer deal (bad for him, he'll be past 30 when this is up) for a million less per year and a lower percentage guaranteed. That looks about right to me.
4 years
14.5 per year
69% of the money is guaranteed
Haden's Extension:
5 years
13.6 per year
66% guaranteed
Basically Haden took a longer deal (bad for him, he'll be past 30 when this is up) for a million less per year and a lower percentage guaranteed. That looks about right to me.
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MizzouHawkGal":1rkid97e said:
The quickest way to derail anything brewing in Cleveland is to keep in mind that it's Cleveland.
