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 Post subject: The first time Wilson blows a game for us....
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Can we please not do the typical .net Whipping Boy Show on this board. Although there were times he played like a rookie, never could you pin an entire loss on his shoulders.

But eventually that day is coming and we should be prepared for it. I think Wilson has built up enough equity that when, inevitably, he does finally have a game in which the loss is clearly on his shoulders, he had earned a few mulligans before we question things like "Sophomore Slump" and "Still too short".

I know it's premature now, but food for thought. I was going through the schedule last year and realized that outside of the 1st STL game (fluky, bounce off fingertips interceptions), he didn't even have a "poor" or "typical rookie" performance this season. But it still doesn't mean he won't next year at some point.

At some point we will watch him have one of those 4 int, 52% completion, 6 sack days in a losing effort and before we go crazy on this board, we will have to remind ourselves that Russell will beat himself up over that performance way more than we ever could.


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impossible. if wilson struggles, its bevells fault

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Is it training camp yet?

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Ahh. I think he'll be alright barring injuries. Kid has a head on his shoulders.

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Is it training camp yet?


Dude! It's the 16th of January!
But yea Russ was done with training camp for TWO days now!


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Is it training camp yet?


It's closer than it was yesterday.

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Human nature. Even if he started off as the #1 overall pick, some would attack him (or any QB) if he didn't perform to the standard they want. I bet there are folks that are Patriots fans that rag on Brady once in a while. Just discuss those critiques that are fair and challenge those that are off the wall.

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He wasn't able to bring us back in the 4th QTR in San Francisco.


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He wasn't able to bring us back in the 4th QTR in San Francisco.


He threw a pick on the final drive of the first Rams game too.

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So since the season is over for the Seahawks does this make RW a 1 year veteran?.......


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.net, the place where the cult of Wilsonizm was born? Or is it just fostered? At least a few people are keeping it real...


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I already have a whole piece written calling for the benching of Russ and the trade for Tavaris as soon as he throws one bad pass next season...


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He wasn't able to bring us back in the 4th QTR in San Francisco.


He threw a pick on the final drive of the first Rams game too.


Still though, did he COST us the game? I'm not talking about a subpar day. I'm thinking more of an unequivocal, no doubt about it, Wilson-threw-a-GW-pick-6 for the other team type of game. Because he still hasn't had one of those and I think it's foolish to expect he won't at some point. Unless he really IS a robot and, in that case, we should REALLY be mad about Sundays loss. :sarcasm_on:


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I am pretty sure that the first fan to drunkenly blame Wilson will be summarily crucified within moments by 20 pages of incredulous comments. I'm not worried.


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I'm sold on him. I've not bitched about his play in months whether in victory or defeat. Yes, he's made a few mistakes. I've seen Manning make more.


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Knowing Russell Wilson. He probably practices and prepares until he can't fail, so we may never see the day where a loss is his fault.


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The legions will argue this (and flame me) but I put the loss to Zona on RW. Those passes to the end zone would have required circus catches. No big deal. It was his first game in the NFL and by year's end, he was frikin Elway-esque (IMO, he better compares to Steve Young but Young-esque just sounds odd).


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Give this kid some protection and he is lethal. Dave Kreig labored under the delusion that he might someday get an o line that would protect him. It never came and it was a huge disservice to him (IMHO). I can only hope that promise is fulfilled here. When your quarterback is running for his life he's bound to make a few mistakes(SF, STL). So far his sheer athleticism has served him well and the good has FAR outweighed the few mistakes he made.

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I believe he threw 21 TDs in the red zone and ZERO FREAKIN' INTERCEPTIONS this year, his rookie season. And still you think he's going to blow a game for us?
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OK seriously I suppose it's bound to happen. Right?

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Let's just file this thread topic away until 2027 when Wilson starts to decline.

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Instant QB controversy.

I'm having a hard time seeing a just awful, ugly, nasty outing from Wilson. Even when he's struggled, it hasn't been just egregious screw up after screw up.

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If Wilson has a bad day it's only because he was sick and his stunt double screwed up. All kidding aside, Manning has had bad days and nobody prepares better, except maybe Wilson at this stage. Both appear very OC. It's the bounce back factor that makes Manning maintain his elite status. People have short memorys.

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Instant QB controversy.

I'm having a hard time seeing a just awful, ugly, nasty outing from Wilson. Even when he's struggled, it hasn't been just egregious screw up after screw up.


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He's so innately efficient that I think any sup-par outings will be rare. After taking six sacks against Stl, his rating was still off tbe charts. That ability alone puts him in exclusive company.

Think about what caused bad outings from our QB's in the past...Who would have fared so well against such withering pressure? Hass could only take so much before making WTF type throws. Wilson is ice no matter what's happening...CHECK! Fumble-happy Dave Kieg? Wilson has hands that look like catcher's mitts..."CHA-CHING!"
Mobility? Zorn was quite the scambler, but wasn't near as elusive. Arm? The dude has a canon. Among anybody who's started for us successfully for any length of time, he clearly has the strongest arm and best deep ball. Hass was pretty good at reading D's, but I dare say Russell will pass him next season.

I wouldn't be wringing my hands over Russ somehow having a bad day. More often than not, the 'bad day' will be suffered by the opposing D.


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Wilson doesn't blow games, games blow him.

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Wilson doesn't blow games, games blow him.


First out loud laugh of the day. :mrgreen:

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Impossible. Russell Wilson is no Tony Romo. He doesn't choke on big games, let alone regular season games.

Jk.

It is inevitable. No one is perfect. But I don't see RW blowing many games. If you do pin a game on him, it will be a pick, but the pick will most likely be a weird bounce off a receiver or the opponents D-line. Then we'll hear the, "Oh, if Russell Wilson was taller, that pass wouldn't have been tipped by their DT!" There are too many Debby Downers around to just let something go.

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Do you really see Wilson totally blowing a game. That's really hard to picture. Maybe he has the flu and refused to take himself out, like an RGIII type decision. But I just don't see it.

Besides, for how many times he brought the team back from the brink this season he deserves to lay an egg. But even then, I don't see it happening.


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Wilson doesn't blow games, games blow him.


First out loud laugh of the day. :mrgreen:


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Can we please not do the typical .net Whipping Boy Show on this board. Although there were times he played like a rookie, never could you pin an entire loss on his shoulders.

But eventually that day is coming and we should be prepared for it. I think Wilson has built up enough equity that when, inevitably, he does finally have a game in which the loss is clearly on his shoulders, he had earned a few mulligans before we question things like "Sophomore Slump" and "Still too short".

I know it's premature now, but food for thought. I was going through the schedule last year and realized that outside of the 1st STL game (fluky, bounce off fingertips interceptions), he didn't even have a "poor" or "typical rookie" performance this season. But it still doesn't mean he won't next year at some point.

At some point we will watch him have one of those 4 int, 52% completion, 6 sack days in a losing effort and before we go crazy on this board, we will have to remind ourselves that Russell will beat himself up over that performance way more than we ever could.



We are talking about Russell Wilson here. Impossible for him to have a bad game. Ever.

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Too bad we couldn't have a counter on this statement to see how many times it will be posted.

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Greatness makes an off day easier to forgive or dismiss. Look at how long the Dolphins stood behind Marino. Do you hear Pat's fans spewing negativity about Brady when he has a less-than-stellar outing? The Hawks have never had a truly 'great' QB. We've had above-average at best.


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