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Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:54 am
  • Notice Zach Miller in the seam..

    If Sweezy holds off his man longer than .3 seconds.. it's an EASY touchdown.

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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:00 am
  • Yeah Sweezy just doesn't have the experience yet. We lost and nothing can change it so i won't be to hard on him. But that cannot happen in that situation it just can't. He hardly touched the guy. He will get better next year. They are all young and will learn.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:03 am
  • oh he touched him plenty... enough to put a saddle on him and ride him all the way to the backfield...
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:04 am
  • Another interesting thing Carroll talked about was that Wilson put the ball down on the field after the sac rather than handing it to the ref as they teach. This allowed the Falcons player to kick the ball.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:06 am
  • Yeah but Sweezy sucks, so he didn't.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:07 am
  • What did they gain from the revolving door of Sweezy and Moffitt yesterday? Whoever helps the O line play with more consistency as a unit should have been playing the whole game. I do not understand that strategy considering it was a freaking playoff game. And yea, Sweezy was absolutely pathetic on that play.

    Here's hoping that Carpenter comes back healthy and locks down LG, and Paul McQuistan can slide over and hold down RG next year.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:11 am
  • Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:20 am
  • Good point Clink
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:50 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.


    i agree Clink, but man i honestly don't know if he even had time to throw it away, i mean sweezy whiffed big time, that dude was back there within seconds...
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:50 am
  • I don't understand why DangeRuss seems to be getting blasted today by media pundits over him "taking that sack". It seemed to me that he didn't really have much of a say in that situation. The ball was snapped and it felt like he wasn't even done dropping back before he was getting thrown to the ground.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:53 am
  • I'm not so sure it was an "easy touchdown". The safety was over the top and moving in.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:56 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.


    Wilson throwing it away wasn't possible. He hadn't hardly dropped back when he got sacked. Sweezy may have the physical skills that Cable looks for in an lineman, and maybe given a full off season, he'll become better, but that one particular play has to fall on Sweezy.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:16 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.


    Its easy to say when watching the video but that Falcon player was on Russell within 2 seconds. I don't care how lighting quick someone is they're not gonna be able to get that ball off in 2 seconds. No way.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:23 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.


    Man that block was so bad, didn't really give Wilson time to do that.

    And with a grounding, they run 10 seconds off the clock then start the clock back up I believe. So it's end of half either way.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:26 am
  • No way he could have thrown that away. He was just getting set after his drop when he got hit. No Way.....
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:33 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.

    No way man. It would be one thing if it were an extra blitzer coming from the outside. But a guy coming untouched up the middle? No knowledgeable football fan blames that on Wilson.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:45 am
  • I put no blame on Russell there, he had no time to do anything thanks to Sweezy's "block" or lack there of. I love JR's potential, but he has cost us more than I would have liked, really wish they had just stuck with Moffitt as he seemed to do a fine job when he was put in.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:58 am
  • Echoing the sentiments of the other posters here. Sweezy got dusted so quickly that Wilson never had time to get rid of the ball. His football intelligence is off the charts, I'm sure he knew he can't take a sack in that situation but the defender was on him so fast he couldn't throw it away.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:04 pm
  • *sigh*

    We get it.

    You don't like Wilson.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:22 pm
  • Honestly, since there was no timeouts left at the time, the thought crossed my mind to not take a chance on a player being tackled in the field of play (since we couldn't clock it) and just take the safe FG. But I wonder how that decision would have been received at the time...ie considered chickening out?
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:19 pm
  • HawkRiderFan wrote:Honestly, since there was no timeouts left at the time, the thought crossed my mind to not take a chance on a player being tackled in the field of play (since we couldn't clock it) and just take the safe FG. But I wonder how that decision would have been received at the time...ie considered chickening out?


    Being down 20-0 at the time most fans would have killed Carroll for taking a FG on 3rd down with 16 seconds left. In hindsight that would have been the better option but that's why they call it hindsight. I think the people criticizing Wilson for "taking a sack" are off-base here and should be criticizing Sweezy because he has to know that he can't give up a sack there. He was clearly beat immediately off the snap and had to know Wilson was in trouble. He should have done whatever he could to prevent it from happening, including drawing a holding penalty, as that would have been a 10 yard penalty and still given us the opportunity to kick around a 40 yard FG instead of getting nothing at all.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:29 pm
  • It wouldn't have been intentional grounding. Considering the time frame of the game, the last two minutes of the half, the rules allow for spiking the ball.

    I think clock management in general, and two minute drills, are going to be a big focus for this team this off season. Let's face it, this team had a lot going on this past off season and in season to be so highly focused on everything that goes into performing at a high level in all areas. There were short cuts taken because, at the time, Pete and his staff had some serious questions they needed to answer.

    That's why the good news this off season, next training camp, is that the Seahawks are seriously beyond satisfied with Wilson as the QB. We all are. More good news. Russell Wilson will be also heading into next season, for the first time in his life, a one sport athlete. Think about that guys, because he is this good as a rookie with all the adversity to get the job, up to this year he was splitting reps in his own career goals, with baseball, right along with an education.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:38 pm
  • Greenhell wrote:
    Missing_Clink wrote:Also, Wilson has to know to throw it away there. He needed to do absolutely anything to not take a sack. Even intentional grounding would have been ok. There would still be time after the ten second runoff, and a ten yard penalty still gives you a chance for a very make-able field goal.


    Its easy to say when watching the video but that Falcon player was on Russell within 2 seconds. I don't care how lighting quick someone is they're not gonna be able to get that ball off in 2 seconds. No way.


    Exactly, and the end result could have easily been intentional grounding instead of a sack.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:42 pm
  • Isn't it 10 second runoff and clock keeps running once ball is spotted? possible but really hard to get a kicking team out there

    spiking is not an option when you run a play where the qb is getting sacked. you will get intentional ground all day on that

    the line didn't hold which was horrible another split second and all the things come into play including throwing away the ball. It didn't happen coaches should have expected it to happen (which they did) and RW can't get rid of the ball

    sucks but you know what looking at it a few times and I just don't see anything on the execution or play calling side that should have been different. The game was lost because of the number of opportunities screwed up in the first half........
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:45 pm
  • madbohem wrote:It wouldn't have been intentional grounding. Considering the time frame of the game, the last two minutes of the half, the rules allow for spiking the ball.

    I think clock management in general, and two minute drills, are going to be a big focus for this team this off season. Let's face it, this team had a lot going on this past off season and in season to be so highly focused on everything that goes into performing at a high level in all areas. There were short cuts taken because, at the time, Pete and his staff had some serious questions they needed to answer.

    That's why the good news this off season, next training camp, is that the Seahawks are seriously beyond satisfied with Wilson as the QB. We all are. More good news. Russell Wilson will be also heading into next season, for the first time in his life, a one sport athlete. Think about that guys, because he is this good as a rookie with all the adversity to get the job, up to this year he was splitting reps in his own career goals, with baseball, right along with an education.


    You can only take one step back then spike the ball for it to be spiking to stop the clock. Once you take more than one step it would be intentional grounding.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:47 pm
  • AF_Hawk wrote:
    madbohem wrote:It wouldn't have been intentional grounding. Considering the time frame of the game, the last two minutes of the half, the rules allow for spiking the ball.

    I think clock management in general, and two minute drills, are going to be a big focus for this team this off season. Let's face it, this team had a lot going on this past off season and in season to be so highly focused on everything that goes into performing at a high level in all areas. There were short cuts taken because, at the time, Pete and his staff had some serious questions they needed to answer.

    That's why the good news this off season, next training camp, is that the Seahawks are seriously beyond satisfied with Wilson as the QB. We all are. More good news. Russell Wilson will be also heading into next season, for the first time in his life, a one sport athlete. Think about that guys, because he is this good as a rookie with all the adversity to get the job, up to this year he was splitting reps in his own career goals, with baseball, right along with an education.


    You can only take one step back then spike the ball for it to be spiking to stop the clock. Once you take more than one step it would be intentional grounding.


    True. But maybe I should say that I would have hoped they would have come out to spike the ball.
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Re: Wilson sack before half
Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:40 pm
  • I think the blown 4th and 1 play was worse than this. Next time, 3rd and 1 ... just let your QB get 1 yard.
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