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8th worst pick
Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:47 pm

Re: 8th worst pick
Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:14 pm
  • Remember when Aaron Curry was the “cant miss” prospect... Or the Seahawks drafted a Short QB Russell Wilson way to early? Let’s all just relax an see how it all plays out.


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Re: 8th worst pick
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  • AKNFidel wrote:Remember when Aaron Curry was the “cant miss” prospect... Or the Seahawks drafted a Short QB Russell Wilson way to early? Let’s all just relax an see how it all plays out.


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Re: 8th worst pick
Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:47 pm
  • This is saying it was a huge mistake because Seattle should have drafted an OL player. So anyone that Seattle drafted that wasn’t an OL player would be a huge mistake. Then add the reach for Perry

    I do think they are ignoring new OL coach that will do more with less and Perry’s return skills which will spare Lockett
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Re: 8th worst pick
Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:53 pm
  • The narrative that we should try fixing the O-line through the draft is so old. We have spent more draft capital on the O-Line that at any other position in recent years. We have 3 high draft picks (Pocic, Britt and Ifedi) who should be excellent contributors next season. Then we have Rees as well. We just need trainers to get the best out of them.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:11 pm
  • This is the same tired narrative we hear every year to problem is the analysts seem to be blind to the fact we have Duane Brown, signed DJ Flucker, still have Britt, a second year Pocic and a new OL coach, Offensive coordinator the list goes on. We are better than we have been in years on the OL. But hey we have done nothing unless we use a first, second and third round pick every year on OL.
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Re: 8th worst pick
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:24 am
  • Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Bleacher Report says Seattle made the 8th worst pick of the draft. I hope they're wrong.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773118-nfl-draft-2018-results-reviewing-this-years-worst-picks?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


    What is says about Barkley rings completely untrue though. The list of high picked RBs runs pretty good

    OJ Simpson
    Earl Campbell
    Barry Sanders
    Eric Dickerson
    LT
    Marshall Faulk
    Tony Dorsett
    Walter Payton
    Gale Sayers

    All hall of famers that were picked in the top 5. More than a quarter of RBs in the HoF were picked in the top 5. Then you also have Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Larry Csonka, John Riggins Jerome Bettis among others picked in the top 10. There are probably others among the older players (particularly pre-superbowl era) that were also picked high that are in the HoF that I'm not aware of.

    Plenty others who maybe didn't have transcendent careers but were still very good players, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James, George Rogers

    And then the likes of Bo Jackson, Billy Sims, who had short careers due to injury but were "tilt-the-field" players when they were on it.

    So basically what I'm saying is if you want a Hall of Fame running back you need to pick them early or you've got practically no chance, so this BR article is not worth reading... I never even got to the bit about the Seahawks pick
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:45 am
  • themunn wrote:
    Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Bleacher Report says Seattle made the 8th worst pick of the draft. I hope they're wrong.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773118-nfl-draft-2018-results-reviewing-this-years-worst-picks?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


    What is says about Barkley rings completely untrue though. The list of high picked RBs runs pretty good

    OJ Simpson
    Earl Campbell
    Barry Sanders
    Eric Dickerson
    LT
    Marshall Faulk
    Tony Dorsett
    Walter Payton
    Gale Sayers

    All hall of famers that were picked in the top 5. More than a quarter of RBs in the HoF were picked in the top 5. Then you also have Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Larry Csonka, John Riggins Jerome Bettis among others picked in the top 10. There are probably others among the older players (particularly pre-superbowl era) that were also picked high that are in the HoF that I'm not aware of.

    Plenty others who maybe didn't have transcendent careers but were still very good players, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James, George Rogers

    And then the likes of Bo Jackson, Billy Sims, who had short careers due to injury but were "tilt-the-field" players when they were on it.

    So basically what I'm saying is if you want a Hall of Fame running back you need to pick them early or you've got practically no chance, so this BR article is not worth reading... I never even got to the bit about the Seahawks pick


    By your own admission roughly 25% of HoF RB's are top 5 picks, the remaining (roughly) 75% aren't.

    I think I'd rather take my chances on the 75%, personally.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:07 am
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:47 am
  • original poster wrote:
    themunn wrote:
    Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Bleacher Report says Seattle made the 8th worst pick of the draft. I hope they're wrong.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773118-nfl-draft-2018-results-reviewing-this-years-worst-picks?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


    What is says about Barkley rings completely untrue though. The list of high picked RBs runs pretty good

    OJ Simpson
    Earl Campbell
    Barry Sanders
    Eric Dickerson
    LT
    Marshall Faulk
    Tony Dorsett
    Walter Payton
    Gale Sayers

    All hall of famers that were picked in the top 5. More than a quarter of RBs in the HoF were picked in the top 5. Then you also have Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Larry Csonka, John Riggins Jerome Bettis among others picked in the top 10. There are probably others among the older players (particularly pre-superbowl era) that were also picked high that are in the HoF that I'm not aware of.

    Plenty others who maybe didn't have transcendent careers but were still very good players, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James, George Rogers

    And then the likes of Bo Jackson, Billy Sims, who had short careers due to injury but were "tilt-the-field" players when they were on it.

    So basically what I'm saying is if you want a Hall of Fame running back you need to pick them early or you've got practically no chance, so this BR article is not worth reading... I never even got to the bit about the Seahawks pick


    By your own admission roughly 25% of HoF RB's are top 5 picks, the remaining (roughly) 75% aren't.

    I think I'd rather take my chances on the 75%, personally.


    Well if you're gonna do that... I said I didn't know about a good number of players. Having had a look now I can tell you that 21 of the 32 running backs in the hall of fame were picked in the top 10

    So that means that since roughly 66% of hall of fame running backs come from the top 4% of picks, you are around 40x more likely to find a hall of famer if you take a running back in the top 10 than in the rest of the picks combined.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:50 am
  • themunn wrote:
    original poster wrote:
    themunn wrote:
    Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Bleacher Report says Seattle made the 8th worst pick of the draft. I hope they're wrong.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773118-nfl-draft-2018-results-reviewing-this-years-worst-picks?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


    What is says about Barkley rings completely untrue though. The list of high picked RBs runs pretty good

    OJ Simpson
    Earl Campbell
    Barry Sanders
    Eric Dickerson
    LT
    Marshall Faulk
    Tony Dorsett
    Walter Payton
    Gale Sayers

    All hall of famers that were picked in the top 5. More than a quarter of RBs in the HoF were picked in the top 5. Then you also have Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Larry Csonka, John Riggins Jerome Bettis among others picked in the top 10. There are probably others among the older players (particularly pre-superbowl era) that were also picked high that are in the HoF that I'm not aware of.

    Plenty others who maybe didn't have transcendent careers but were still very good players, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James, George Rogers

    And then the likes of Bo Jackson, Billy Sims, who had short careers due to injury but were "tilt-the-field" players when they were on it.

    So basically what I'm saying is if you want a Hall of Fame running back you need to pick them early or you've got practically no chance, so this BR article is not worth reading... I never even got to the bit about the Seahawks pick


    By your own admission roughly 25% of HoF RB's are top 5 picks, the remaining (roughly) 75% aren't.

    I think I'd rather take my chances on the 75%, personally.


    Well if you're gonna do that... I said I didn't know about a good number of players. Having had a look now I can tell you that 21 of the 32 running backs in the hall of fame were picked in the top 10

    So that means that since roughly 66% of hall of fame running backs come from the top 4% of picks, you are around 40x more likely to find a hall of famer if you take a running back in the top 10 than in the rest of the picks combined.


    Hats off, Munn!

    Must say I'm surprised that so many of the (roughly) 75% come from picks 6-10.

    Interesting :2thumbs:
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:19 am
  • Until this team shows otherwise, I have no problem with the perception that we have an OL problem. Hopefully, this will be another one of those cases where they're saying "We were wrong" in a few years, but for now, I can't get too upset with those who think our first round selection was short-sighted.

    I wanted Sony Michel if we were going to go RB high because he looked so mind-blowingly explosive whenever I caught him, but it's not like I saw many San Diego State games here in Michigan.

    I've been saying for years that running backs are not as interchangeable as our fans make them out to be. I'm excited to see what kind of improvement this addition creates.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:29 am
  • I don't think anyone is saying we don't have questions marks on the O-line.

    Its just lazy to say that the only solution is drafting guys in rounds 1-3 to fix it.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:59 am
  • These are media feebs who think if we don't follow their script, we "made a mistake". They said the same thing about Russell Wilson.

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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:13 am
  • The 2012 Draft class grades.

    Donald Wood, Bleacher Report F
    Jason Cole, Yahoo Sports D-
    Pete Prisco, CBS Sports C+
    Matt Miller, Bleacher Report D
    SI.com (author not listed) C
    Vinny Iyer, Sporting News D
    Mel Kiper, ESPN C-
    Chad Reuter, NFL.com C+

    These guys are literally guessing.

    And let's bring this out again, it's always good for a laugh.

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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:29 am
  • I think it's pretty fair to say that our OL isn't very good and hasn't been very good in quite awhile. However, it is mind numbingly ignorant to claim that they've ignored the position. They have spent a ton of resources on the OL. At this point we can only hope that the problem was the coaching, not the players.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:24 am
  • The pick did appear to be a reach at the time but in hindsight one can see that EIGHT running backs were picked by the time the Hawks 2nd pick came around at 76. That is twice as many as last year and the most since 2008 (10). Teams valued RB significantly higher this year and that is only apparent after the picks have been made.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:47 am
  • Based on number of picks, gaps in when the next pick was and our failure to run last year

    Then add changes to OL - signed players, cut players, new coach

    And you can EASILY justify taking a RB where we did

    Who we took is simply a different discussion than what position we drafted
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:01 am
  • Why do people care what bleacher report says, or even grace them with clicks?
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Re: 8th worst pick
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:24 pm
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:The 2012 Draft class grades.

    Donald Wood, Bleacher Report F
    Jason Cole, Yahoo Sports D-
    Pete Prisco, CBS Sports C+
    Matt Miller, Bleacher Report D
    SI.com (author not listed) C
    Vinny Iyer, Sporting News D
    Mel Kiper, ESPN C-
    Chad Reuter, NFL.com C+

    These guys are literally guessing.

    And let's bring this out again, it's always good for a laugh.




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Re: 8th worst pick
Wed May 02, 2018 5:38 pm
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:The 2012 Draft class grades.

    Donald Wood, Bleacher Report F
    Jason Cole, Yahoo Sports D-
    Pete Prisco, CBS Sports C+
    Matt Miller, Bleacher Report D
    SI.com (author not listed) C
    Vinny Iyer, Sporting News D
    Mel Kiper, ESPN C-
    Chad Reuter, NFL.com C+

    These guys are literally guessing.

    And let's bring this out again, it's always good for a laugh.



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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 10:25 am
  • Why any of us waste time watching some schmo tell us how crappy they think their opinion of our draft was escapes sensibility.

    These guys certainly had their heads up their rear ends on that draft especially Peter Shraeger (?sp.).
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 10:56 am
  • RB's the Seahawks have drafted in the 1st round:
    Curt Warner
    John L Williams
    Shaun Alexander

    And our other great RB, Marshawn Lynch was also a 1st round pick

    It's no coincidence that our greatest franchise years came with a franchise 1st round RB. Let's hope Penny becomes the next great Seattle RB.

    I am totally on board with drafting RB's in the first these days. The defenses are getting lighter to speed rush the QB's which makes a solid running game increasingly valuable. Yes its a passing league but if you can't run, your QB is a sitting duck with all these athletic pass rushers.

    The best Seahawks teams were balanced offensively. Well maybe not the 84 team (but that showed in the playoffs).
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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 10:59 am
  • If Seattle can't block, it won't be able to run in the red zone.
    Good luck, Russell Wilson.


    They are not saying it was a bad pick. They are saying to fix the run game you have to fix the oline, which I happen to entirely agree with (see our clear evidence with Collins last year). The question is...is it fixed? I doubt it will be even average, but believe it should be a little better....we will see.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 11:10 am
  • original poster wrote:
    themunn wrote:
    Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Bleacher Report says Seattle made the 8th worst pick of the draft. I hope they're wrong.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773118-nfl-draft-2018-results-reviewing-this-years-worst-picks?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


    What is says about Barkley rings completely untrue though. The list of high picked RBs runs pretty good

    OJ Simpson
    Earl Campbell
    Barry Sanders
    Eric Dickerson
    LT
    Marshall Faulk
    Tony Dorsett
    Walter Payton
    Gale Sayers

    All hall of famers that were picked in the top 5. More than a quarter of RBs in the HoF were picked in the top 5. Then you also have Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Larry Csonka, John Riggins Jerome Bettis among others picked in the top 10. There are probably others among the older players (particularly pre-superbowl era) that were also picked high that are in the HoF that I'm not aware of.

    Plenty others who maybe didn't have transcendent careers but were still very good players, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James, George Rogers

    And then the likes of Bo Jackson, Billy Sims, who had short careers due to injury but were "tilt-the-field" players when they were on it.

    So basically what I'm saying is if you want a Hall of Fame running back you need to pick them early or you've got practically no chance, so this BR article is not worth reading... I never even got to the bit about the Seahawks pick


    By your own admission roughly 25% of HoF RB's are top 5 picks, the remaining (roughly) 75% aren't.

    I think I'd rather take my chances on the 75%, personally.


    Your chances are still far less than his when you look at the volume of players those 75% have to come from as opposed to just the few that come from top 5 picks at RB.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 11:17 am
  • Yes, but you don't need a HoF RB to win the SB. The league has changed quite a bit since many of those guys carried the ball.
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Thu May 03, 2018 11:38 am
  • adeltaY wrote:Yes, but you don't need a HoF RB to win the SB. The league has changed quite a bit since many of those guys carried the ball.


    Seahawks have been to the SB 3 times and all three times had a near-HoF RB toting the ball. League hasn't changed that much.

    Case Keenum out-dueled Tom Brady for the Lombardi a few months ago. That happened. In an era everyone says you need a franchise QB to win.

    What you need is balance. Run, pass, defend, kick.
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Thu May 03, 2018 11:41 am
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    adeltaY wrote:Yes, but you don't need a HoF RB to win the SB. The league has changed quite a bit since many of those guys carried the ball.


    Seahawks have been to the SB 3 times and all three times had a near-HoF RB toting the ball. League hasn't changed that much.

    Case Keenum out-dueled Tom Brady for the Lombardi a few months ago. That happened. In an era everyone says you need a franchise QB to win.

    What you need is balance. Run, pass, defend, kick.


    Well said. There is too much emphasis on what you don't need. Winning a Super Bowl is hard, and being great at any aspect is helpful to getting there.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 11:44 am
  • Seymour wrote:They are not saying it was a bad pick. They are saying to fix the run game you have to fix the oline, which I happen to entirely agree with (see our clear evidence with Collins last year). The question is...is it fixed? I doubt it will be even average, but believe it should be a little better....we will see.


    This how I feel too. Solari would need to be really special to make the line just average. I hope he can.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 8:59 pm
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    adeltaY wrote:Yes, but you don't need a HoF RB to win the SB. The league has changed quite a bit since many of those guys carried the ball.


    Seahawks have been to the SB 3 times and all three times had a near-HoF RB toting the ball. League hasn't changed that much.

    Case Keenum out-dueled Tom Brady for the Lombardi a few months ago. That happened. In an era everyone says you need a franchise QB to win.

    What you need is balance. Run, pass, defend, kick.


    First of all it was Foles who was in the SB. Also that's recency bias. The only other non-franchise or HoF level QBs to appear in SBs this decade have been Kaepernick and Flacco and Flacco got paid like one.

    Passing is more efficient than rushing. I agree running is important in short yardage and goal line situations as well as a means to kill the clock after getting a lead. A good run game is good to have and helps keep your QB safer, but the passing game is more important these days.

    For the Seahawks, we had success with Lynch carrying the ball. With a worse OL and almost no hope of getting an RB as good as Marshawn, we should evolve our offensive philosophy IMO.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Thu May 03, 2018 11:53 pm
  • I maintain my thought that the main thing you need to win a Super Bowl is luck. Of course there are other elements but luck is the main one IMO.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Fri May 04, 2018 4:06 am
  • I’m hoping that the blocking for our run game will improve by moving away from the scheme that had all five dive on the turf and roll over like turtles on the free way.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Fri May 04, 2018 5:15 am
  • original poster wrote:I maintain my thought that the main thing you need to win a Super Bowl is luck. Of course there are other elements but luck is the main one IMO.


    Interesting. Luck over talent? Even if one wants to classify injuries (or lack there of) as luck, in many cases it can be traced back to age or conditioning. I completely disagree, and believe that talent is the #1 ingredient in winning a SB, and its not even close IMO.
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Fri May 04, 2018 5:25 am
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    original poster wrote:I maintain my thought that the main thing you need to win a Super Bowl is luck. Of course there are other elements but luck is the main one IMO.


    Interesting. Luck over talent? Even if one wants to classify injuries (or lack there of) as luck, in many cases it can be traced back to age or conditioning. I completely disagree, and believe that talent is the #1 ingredient in winning a SB, and its not even close IMO.


    Yep I stand by that.

    You can have all the talent in the world but if a few things don't go your way, you don't stand a chance.

    If talent is the number 1 ingredient, we may as well announce the 2018 Rams as Super Bowl champs now.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Fri May 04, 2018 5:33 am
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    original poster wrote:I maintain my thought that the main thing you need to win a Super Bowl is luck. Of course there are other elements but luck is the main one IMO.


    Interesting. Luck over talent? Even if one wants to classify injuries (or lack there of) as luck, in many cases it can be traced back to age or conditioning. I completely disagree, and believe that talent is the #1 ingredient in winning a SB, and its not even close IMO.


    Yep I stand by that.

    You can have all the talent in the world but if a few things don't go your way, you don't stand a chance.

    If talent is the number 1 ingredient, we may as well announce the 2018 Rams as Super Bowl champs now.


    Nope because luck does have some merit along with team chemistry and coaching as well. The discussion is the #1 most important ingredient. Talent doesn't get you a guaranteed win, but it puts you in the conversation to contend for it, and without it you are not even that far. When was the last time the Browns won a SB again? Are they that "unlucky"?
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  • If you want to make a proper topic out of it be my guest, I'll gladly contribute but lets get this topic back on track.
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    No Injuries to key player.

    Refs don't botch calls at critical times.
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Re: 8th worst pick
Fri May 04, 2018 11:38 am
  • mikeak wrote:This is saying it was a huge mistake because Seattle should have drafted an OL player. So anyone that Seattle drafted that wasn’t an OL player would be a huge mistake. Then add the reach for Perry

    I do think they are ignoring new OL coach that will do more with less and Perry’s return skills which will spare Lockett


    Not to mention he's a really good receiver.
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