One stat that may be the key to victory against the Eagles

seabowl · Dec 4, 2014

Because Philly runs that racecar offense the problem is if they either score quickly or can't get first downs they put tremendous pressure on their D. They are 4th worst in time of possession in the league whereas we are near the top. With our ball control O we have a chance of wearing them out by mid 3rd quarter. A heavy dose of Beastmode if this happens will probably bode well for the Hawks. A variation of this O has been run in the past and the main issue is the stress it puts on the teams D running this scheme. Will be interesting to see for sure.

SoCalSeahawk · Dec 4, 2014

Other key stats:

The Eagle's nine wins are against teams with an overall winning percentage of .373.

The Eagle's home field record of 6-0 is against teams with an overall winning percentage of .253.

The Eagle's only win against a team with a winning record overall and a winning record at the time of the game occurred last week in Dallas. (Cherry picked stat of the week)

The Eagle's three losses are against teams with an overall winning percentage of .694.

The Eagle's quarterback is Mark Sanchez.

Chawks1 · Dec 4, 2014

Key to victory: +3 in turnover margin. Philly has lost each game they have had 3 or more turnovers. They are undefeated when having 2 or less turnovers. LOB needs to harass Sanchez. In 5 games he has fumbled 6 times and thrown 6 Ints.

RiverDog · Dec 4, 2014

seabowl":lopsiadt said:
Because Philly runs that racecar offense the problem is if they either score quickly or can't get first downs they put tremendous pressure on their D. They are 4th worst in time of possession in the league whereas we are near the top. With our ball control O we have a chance of wearing them out by mid 3rd quarter. A heavy dose of Beastmode if this happens will probably bode well for the Hawks. A variation of this O has been run by in the past and the main issue is the stress it puts on the teams D running this scheme. Will be interesting to see for sure.

That's true. During the Dallas Turkey Day game, the announcers noted how Philly's race car offense has led to them having difficulty protecting leads.

kmedic · Dec 4, 2014

This game is all about our defense IMO. All our road losses have been because of our defense letting the team down. At SD, KC and St. Louis, Russell and the offense moved the ball well and scored points. It was the defense that would let the opponent score right back on us after we put together a great drive.

If our defense plays like it has been the past 2 weeks we should be fine.

fef · Dec 4, 2014

seabowl":1ne4wrg3 said:
Because Philly runs that racecar offense the problem is if they either score quickly or can't get first downs they put tremendous pressure on their D. They are 4th worst in time of possession in the league whereas we are near the top. With our ball control O we have a chance of wearing them out by mid 3rd quarter. A heavy dose of Beastmode if this happens will probably bode well for the Hawks. A variation of this O has been run by in the past and the main issue is the stress it puts on the teams D running this scheme. Will be interesting to see for sure.

Philly's D is conditioned to be on the field all game. They actually usually play better as the game goes on, instead of worse. They are usually pretty successful in getting the ball back quickly for their O. I posted these stats in another thread but here is a breakdown for you:

Average Drive Info
Eagles Offense Starts at Own 30.5
TOP - 2:09
Plays Per Drive - 5.83
Yards per Drive - 32.0
Points Per Drive - 1.97
Seahawks Offense Starts at Own 31.9
TOP - 2:58
Plays Per Drive - 6.02
Yards per Drive - 33.6
Points Per Drive - 2.20
Eagles Defense Starts at Own 25.6
TOP - 2:23
Plays Per Drive - 5.2
Yards per Drive - 27.0
Points Per Drive - 1.60
Seattle Defense Starts at Own 25.5
TOP - 2:42
Plays Per Drive - 5.7
Yards per Drive - 27.0
Points Per Drive - 1.61

Philly's average offensive drive is 2 min, 9 sec. their average defensive drive is 2 min, 23 sec. Seahawks average offensive drive is 2 min 58 sec and their average defensive drive is 2 min 42 sec. In eagles games, both teams usually wind up with quite a lot of drives during the game... thus more chances for each offense to score points. If you look at both the hawks and eagles defensive statistics, the eagles actually allow less plays per drive, the same amount of yards per drive, and slightly less (almost the same) points per drive.

pehawk · Dec 4, 2014

Against SD and Dallas Mr Bevell was negligent in his awareness of the game. In each game the Mormon Masochist actually SPED the offense up immediately after the defense had been on the field for an insanely lengthy drive.

I think (and hope) Bevell's been put in check the past few weeks. I haven't seen any negligence since the KC game. But, it's something to keep an eye on. Bevell either doesn't understand or isn't paying attention to situations at times. It's a legit concern this Sunday.

MizzouHawkGal · Dec 4, 2014

fef":31bvqtw1 said:
seabowl":31bvqtw1 said:

Philly's average offensive drive is 2 min, 9 sec. their average defensive drive is 2 min, 23 sec. Seahawks average offensive drive is 2 min 58 sec and their average defensive drive is 2 min 42 sec. In eagles games, both teams usually wind up with quite a lot of drives during the game... thus more chances for each offense to score points. If you look at both the hawks and eagles defensive statistics, the eagles actually allow less plays per drive, the same amount of yards per drive, and slightly less (almost the same) points per drive.

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I really think this will come down to turnovers. Sanchez is usually good for at least 1-2 mistakes a game and that is where we have to take advantage much like when we play San Francisco.

volsunghawk · Dec 4, 2014

Another interesting tidbit is that the Eagles turn the ball over a lot.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/phila ... k-sanchez/

If the Seahawks can continue to generate turnovers like they have the last few games (and unlike the drought they experienced in the first 6 or so games), that could be huge against a team that has turned the ball over every game they've played except one (against Carolina) and has turned it over multiple times in 8 of their 12 games.

I see it this way. As long as the Seahawks don't turn the ball over (and it should be noted that the Seahawks have the lowest turnover rate in the league, per Pete's wishes) and the defense plays like it has in the last couple of games, there is no reason Seattle shouldn't take this game.

Largent80 · Dec 4, 2014

I don't want to see RW running with a loaf of bread ever again. He also had the handoff fumble.

We must force turnovers, not create them. An advantage we have is that we practice for fast paced teams, and our players are way quicker than most of the teams Philly has faced so far. And as was pointed out, they have beaten some bad teams, which is what you are supposed to do.

pehawk · Dec 4, 2014

I do expect Wilson to run a bit more this Sunday. If he can run smartly, staying inbounds whilst sliding, that'll help the TOP.

Sgt. Largent · Dec 4, 2014

The Hawks will do what they always do to the high tempo quick paced offenses, beat the crap out of them at the line of scrimmage and disrupt timing...........and if that gameplan's successful against QB's like Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Brees? Then I have no DOUBT that we'll be successful against Mark freakin' Sanchez.

pehawk · Dec 4, 2014

Sgt. Largent":20ldx1j9 said:
The Hawks will do what they always do to the high tempo quick paced offenses, beat the crap out of them at the line of scrimmage and disrupt timing...........and if that gameplan's successful against QB's like Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Brees? Then I have no DOUBT that we'll be successful against Mark freakin' Sanchez.

Those QB's didn't have Chip with 12 days to prepare though. Any gap between Sanchez and the QB's you mentioned is negated by the Chip factor, IMO. Specifically/Also, Chip's wizardry in the screen game.

Sgt. Largent · Dec 4, 2014

pehawk":293deirg said:
Sgt. Largent":293deirg said:

The Hawks will do what they always do to the high tempo quick paced offenses, beat the crap out of them at the line of scrimmage and disrupt timing...........and if that gameplan's successful against QB's like Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Brees? Then I have no DOUBT that we'll be successful against Mark freakin' Sanchez.

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Those QB's didn't have Chip with 12 days to prepare though. Any gap between Sanchez and the QB's you mentioned is negated by the Chip factor, IMO. Specifically/Also, Chip's wizardry in the screen game.

True, but the Eagle's style of offense is only successful if the defense is formation confused and has terrible gap control............as the Cowboys were last week.

Look at the Eagles three losses, Niners, Cards and Packers. Two of those teams are carbon copy of how we play defense. Very basic press cover, physical with excellent gap control.

So unless our D regresses back to the beginning of the season when there were some gap control issues and blown assignments, then I'm confident. Especially with a healthy Kam and Wagner, which IMO was the main reason the D had problems earlier in the year.........less talented subs getting our of position.

volsunghawk · Dec 4, 2014

pehawk":3f2phx1z said:
Sgt. Largent":3f2phx1z said:

The Hawks will do what they always do to the high tempo quick paced offenses, beat the crap out of them at the line of scrimmage and disrupt timing...........and if that gameplan's successful against QB's like Manning, Rodgers, Brady and Brees? Then I have no DOUBT that we'll be successful against Mark freakin' Sanchez.

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Those QB's didn't have Chip with 12 days to prepare though. Any gap between Sanchez and the QB's you mentioned is negated by the Chip factor, IMO. Specifically/Also, Chip's wizardry in the screen game.

The Eagles had plenty of time to prepare after their bye week and they lost to Arizona.

hawkpride · Dec 4, 2014

We have a wild card and that is Pete, no other opposing coach knows the tendencies of Mark S. like Pete does. I think this will without a doubt help the LOB get in Mark S. head enough to bring out the qb we all know he is (a turnover machine).

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 4, 2014

RiverDog":3dzamlb3 said:
seabowl":3dzamlb3 said:

Because Philly runs that racecar offense the problem is if they either score quickly or can't get first downs they put tremendous pressure on their D. They are 4th worst in time of possession in the league whereas we are near the top. With our ball control O we have a chance of wearing them out by mid 3rd quarter. A heavy dose of Beastmode if this happens will probably bode well for the Hawks. A variation of this O has been run by in the past and the main issue is the stress it puts on the teams D running this scheme. Will be interesting to see for sure.

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That's true. During the Dallas Turkey Day game, the announcers noted how Philly's race car offense has led to them having difficulty protecting leads.

And we have a QB with a track record of regaining them in the fourth quarter.

BlueBlood · Dec 4, 2014

fef":3ergjhx2 said:
seabowl":3ergjhx2 said:

Because Philly runs that racecar offense the problem is if they either score quickly or can't get first downs they put tremendous pressure on their D. They are 4th worst in time of possession in the league whereas we are near the top. With our ball control O we have a chance of wearing them out by mid 3rd quarter. A heavy dose of Beastmode if this happens will probably bode well for the Hawks. A variation of this O has been run by in the past and the main issue is the stress it puts on the teams D running this scheme. Will be interesting to see for sure.

Click to expand...

Philly's D is conditioned to be on the field all game. They actually usually play better as the game goes on, instead of worse. They are usually pretty successful in getting the ball back quickly for their O. I posted these stats in another thread but here is a breakdown for you:

Average Drive Info
Eagles Offense Starts at Own 30.5
TOP - 2:09
Plays Per Drive - 5.83
Yards per Drive - 32.0
Points Per Drive - 1.97
Seahawks Offense Starts at Own 31.9
TOP - 2:58
Plays Per Drive - 6.02
Yards per Drive - 33.6
Points Per Drive - 2.20
Eagles Defense Starts at Own 25.6
TOP - 2:23
Plays Per Drive - 5.2
Yards per Drive - 27.0
Points Per Drive - 1.60
Seattle Defense Starts at Own 25.5
TOP - 2:42
Plays Per Drive - 5.7
Yards per Drive - 27.0
Points Per Drive - 1.61

Philly's average offensive drive is 2 min, 9 sec. their average defensive drive is 2 min, 23 sec. Seahawks average offensive drive is 2 min 58 sec and their average defensive drive is 2 min 42 sec. In eagles games, both teams usually wind up with quite a lot of drives during the game... thus more chances for each offense to score points. If you look at both the hawks and eagles defensive statistics, the eagles actually allow less plays per drive, the same amount of yards per drive, and slightly less (almost the same) points per drive.

Nice breakdown, but these stats are meaningless because of the competition.

brimsalabim · Dec 4, 2014

Pete is pretty familiar with Sanchez and Chipper Kelly so we should be prepared well too.

Hawks46 · Dec 4, 2014

I may be mistake, but if I remember correctly, Philly has only played in two games where they didn't generate a turnover, and lost both of those games.

Seattle hasn't turned the ball over in 6 of 12 games this year.

Combined with the amount of turnovers Philly gives up, as well as how many Sanchez has in his starts this season, that will likely be the difference in the game.

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