Who will be the pick at 56?

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Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:43 am
  • Take a guess.

    I'm going with Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. An all-around great tackle who flashes dominance against some tough SEC competition. Seems like a Pete and John pick; considered a reach but fits what they're looking for in terms of leadership, work ethic, and upside.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:52 am
  • Recon_Hawk wrote:Take a guess.

    I'm going with Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. An all-around great tackle who flashes dominance against some tough SEC competition. Seems like a Pete and John pick; considered a reach but fits what they're looking for in terms of leadership, work ethic, and upside.


    Well he did earn the #18 jersey at LSU. Thing is, does he have the physical talent? Expand your post and give us some arguments for your choice. Is he fast? Can he lift? What's his 3-cone? When and where did he flash this dominance you speak of? Are you getting any work done today or screwing off on the boss' dime? Links man, links! Who else likes this kid as much as you do? Walterfootball? Mayock?
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:12 am
  • Kyle Long or Menelik Watson.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:27 am
  • ivotuk wrote:
    Recon_Hawk wrote:Take a guess.

    I'm going with Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. An all-around great tackle who flashes dominance against some tough SEC competition. Seems like a Pete and John pick; considered a reach but fits what they're looking for in terms of leadership, work ethic, and upside.


    Well he did earn the #18 jersey at LSU. Thing is, does he have the physical talent? Expand your post and give us some arguments for your choice. Is he fast? Can he lift? What's his 3-cone? When and where did he flash this dominance you speak of? Are you getting any work done today or screwing off on the boss' dime? Links man, links! Who else likes this kid as much as you do? Walterfootball? Mayock?


    I've mentioned Logan in previous posts, but I'll expand a bit. At 6' 3" 305 lbs, he's your prototypical 3-tech defensive tackle, so for those those wanting a big space eater like Hughes or Williams or Jenkins, he's not that guy. He's an athlete and more in the mold of S. Floyd, S. Richardson, and D. Jones. As a pass rusher, he is more of a slicer than a power guy, displaying great burst off the line. Against the run, he can be downright disruptive if you try and block him 1-on-1 and shows he can anchor well against double teams. I love his upside. He's got a body type that can add more weight and with his athleticism can be the all-around DT that is missing from this team. Imo, he's a very underrated player who was often dealing with double-teams so a bit harder to show off his skills. As a junior, he was awarded the #18 jersey which is given to the player who best exemplifies LSU's values.

    As to flashing dominance, he competed very well against Alabama's two stud offensive linemen, Chance Warmack and Barrett Jones. You can watch that game here. Against lesser talent, you'll see him own them most the game, and overall anchoring a defense that was top in the nation.

    "The more I see of this kid the more I like him," said NFL.com analyst Mike Mayock. "He plays hard. He didn't have the same kind of PR that the [Glenn] Dorseys and all of those other LSU defensive tackles have had. But he may be a better pro than he was a college player. And he was a very good college player. He's going to go in the second or third round."

    "His strength is toughness, but the other thing is his football knowledge. He has a great football IQ," LSU defensive line coach Brick Haley said. "He's a student of the game, he understands it and it's important to him. He's going to have instant credibility because he'll be able to talk about blocking schemes and the things he's getting when he comes off the field. A lot of guys have to be taught that.

    "Every morning when we'd get together for film sessions about 8 a.m., most of the guys were half-asleep," Jenkins said. "I'd see the look on Bennie's face and it was 'Let's go do it.' He's got a great attitude."
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    FWIW, Pete Prisco had this to say: "The guy that people are sleeping on is defensive tackle Bennie Logan, a fast, tough, athletic player who, at times, looked like a potential Pro Bowl player during his career at LSU." Link

    Derek Stephens at FieldGulls did a piece on him which is worth checking out. he compared him to Henry Melton, which I know a bunch of fans wanted to see sign this off-season.
    http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/201 ... ing-report
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:33 am
  • Idk. With the draft and needs so small for this team......the boys will really roll the dice. Our pick will be called a two round reach. Kyle Long as versitile lineman would fit the bill but.....we are right now. Lineman take awhile to develop. We are gonna trade for a TE.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:34 am
  • I really hope the Seahawks go "unconventional" and pick WR-Steadman Bailey who is the best WR in this class IMO. I dare anyobody to ask for "links" as to why I have this opinion.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:43 am
  • I'm thinking O-line or TE. Just a gut feeling nothing to really back it up.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:08 am
  • ivotuk wrote:But the most important thing that caught my attention was his being awarded the #18.

    That's what caught my attention, too. We've seen the value that Pete and John places on hard work and attitude. His draft stock is all over the board, so I may be off on where he goes, but he fits what the front office looks for in it's players. A competitor who's best football is ahead of them.

    Who do you got at 56, ivotuk?
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:16 am
  • Recon_Hawk wrote:Take a guess.

    I'm going with Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. An all-around great tackle who flashes dominance against some tough SEC competition. Seems like a Pete and John pick; considered a reach but fits what they're looking for in terms of leadership, work ethic, and upside.


    Logan feels redundant to me, and he doesn't have any outstanding distinguishing characteristics. Is he any different or better than Scruggs, Howard, McDonald or McDaniel?

    I think it's John Jenkins.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:47 am
  • Biggest space eater they can find for the middle of the defensive line.

    John Jenkins or Jonathan Hankins.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:55 am
  • I think its Brandon Williams, but I would go Da'Rick Rodgers.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:05 pm
  • I'll go with David Amerson, CB, NC State.

    PC/JS have said numerous times that they grade for their own team and not for the league. This is a 6'1 200lb+ CB with ball skills, ran a 4.4 that is physical and angry. Teams have soured on him from when he was projected as a top 10 pick going into last season, I doubt the Hawks are one of them.

    This is a guy that has everything the Hawks want in a DB and likely carries a tremendously high grade in their building. No doubt they think they can coach him into a probowl caliber player. Anyone else takes Amerson in the first two rounds it'll be questioned, if its the Hawks it'll feel like "they've done it again". Provides leverage in case of losing Browner, and at the worst is an ideal big nickle in the already stacked secondary.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:24 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:Kyle Long or Menelik Watson.

    :th2thumbs: Coudln't agree more. Give me some OT depth and competition
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:28 pm
  • Swope/Patton/Christine Michael/Quessenberry

    Edit: Expecting Patton go to NE at #29, Swope to go to Miami at #42, Michael to go to GB at #55.

    So I guess the Hawks are taking Quessenberry.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:39 pm
  • Khaseem Greene. This is a passing league and even though we have Winfield, he is 35/36 and I'd hate to try and win without him should he get hurt.

    Greene at the Will could help in coverage and read the edge on the read-option where Kaperneck gets yards on the outside.

    I think DT is a bigger need but based on who will be available at that spot, we can probably get similar value by moving up in the 3rd.

    if Greene is gone, Sio Moore, then Brandon Williams and would consider Bennie Logan.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:52 pm
  • Hoping for Christine Michael. As for who it will actually be? Beats the shit out of me.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:58 pm
  • Zach Ertz, Jesse Williams or Terron Armstead.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:05 pm
  • Marcus Lattimore will be ready week one! :th2thumbs:
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:11 pm
  • Terron Arrmstead, Kyle Long, Jesse Williams or Sharif Floyd
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:17 pm
  • I'm trying to gauge what will happen by looking at who we have currently at each position and how John and Pete may see the roster as it presently stands. I haven't time to do a whole roster breakdown so i'll say that I believe we're currently weakest (so to speak) in the interior defensive line, linebacker and offensive tackle position.

    DT:

    At the moment I consider us to have one really good DT in Mebane, one really good DT/DE in Bennett, and then a whole lot of question marks. We have Tony McDaniel and Clint McDonald as depth, Scruggs and Howard as the young guys. Doesn't seem to bad and there is much potential in that group (i'm particularly excited by Scruggs if he is putting on weight to concentrate on DT), but I would not like our chances if one of our top two went down. I'd therefore like to ideally see Sylvester Williams to maximise Bennett's output as a DE or DT spelling others. I understand this is a reach to get him at #56 so I would also consider Brandon Williams and Kawann Short as more realistic options. I'm going to just wildly say Montori Hughes will be available in 3rd round.

    LB:

    KJ and Bobby - sorted. WLB - by committee? It seems that way at the moment, though there has been talk of using Avril as a SLB and moving KJ to WLB at times. I personally would like to not over complicate matters and keep KJ primarily at the position he's contributed so well for us. Substitutions and the like are great, but I feel we're missing a great base defense WLB. Therefore the obvious choice here would be Khaseeme Greene, who I think may go earlier than a lot of people projected (his production and leadership is so good something just seems weird for him not being projected earlier). Other options if my worry is correct could be Sio Moore, but really at #56 it'd be Greene or nothing for LB.

    OT:

    I really like Giacomini and Okung was all pro, but if one of them is injured i'm not sure how much confidence i'd have in keeping it all together. Again, I really like McQuistan and think he is almost the glue that bonds our O-Line together, but he's a swiss army knife and not a full OT. Therefore i'd like to maybe get a great OT prospect to begin as backup before taking the reigns from maybe Giacomini next year (being a reliable understudy in the meantime). It looks like Terron Armstead would have been perfect if he hadn't eaten his spinach at the combine. I know there has been a lot of names thrown around for OT here so I can't name anyone specific but maybe Menelik Watson, based only on what i've read from people who know about these things.

    Please know that I don't watch much tape at all, I just read a heck of a lot about the draft and am basing this more on the needs I think Seahawks have that would most benefit from our top pick.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:25 pm
  • godawg wrote:Terron Arrmstead, Kyle Long, Jesse Williams or Sharif Floyd


    I'll go out on a limb and bet Floyd won't be there at 56. :180670:
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:39 pm
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    Recon_Hawk wrote:Take a guess.

    I'm going with Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. An all-around great tackle who flashes dominance against some tough SEC competition. Seems like a Pete and John pick; considered a reach but fits what they're looking for in terms of leadership, work ethic, and upside.


    Logan feels redundant to me, and he doesn't have any outstanding distinguishing characteristics. Is he any different or better than Scruggs, Howard, McDonald or McDaniel?

    I think it's John Jenkins.


    I think so.

    Logan's stronger and more stout against the run than Scruggs who is a bit small to be a run-stuffer at the 285 lbs he played last year.

    I'm not a big fan of McDonalds long-term. I think he's more a backup NT than 3-tech. Logan is a better pass rusher and his athleticism fits better at 3-tech than McDonalds.

    Compared to Howard and McDaniel I can't really say because I haven't seen much of McDaniel and Howard only took a few snaps last year. I do think its fair to say that things don't look good for either of them long-term. McD signed only a one year vet minimum and Scruggs was the said to start over Howard as a replacement for Branch if need be.

    Overall, I'd say its the fact Logan is a more well-rounded DT than the other guys that make him an upgrade and that he has a lot of upside left.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:23 pm
  • i have them taking either Sio Moore,Malliciah Goodman,Dion Sims, or Jordan Mills with the 56 all seem like seahawk picks to me.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:52 am
  • If Green Bay doesn't take him right in front of Seattle: Christine Michael. I'd keep an eye on Menelik Watson too.
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Re: Who will be the pick at 56?
Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:59 am
  • I would shed tears of joy if we took Lattimore at some point. Every Gamecock around here would instantly become Seahawks fans. Be a lot less lonely here in good ole South Carolina.
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