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Would you trade back into the late first if it meant trading the 2nd pick and 2014 1st?
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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:02 am 
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According to many draft experts, it appears that the end of the first round is very strong this year and is likely to contain many players who could make a big impact on the Seahawks roster. As the Seahawks showed this season, they have as good a chance as anybody to win right now; we are no longer rebuilding.

So, if the 25th pick rolls around and there are 2 players who could give the team an instant upgrade (eg Hopkins, Ertz, Richardson, Floyd, Ogletree, Short, Warmack, Cooper), would you be on board with a trade for the 26th pick, or one of those following, in order to have 2 1st round picks this year, if the price is this year's second round pick and next year's first?


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I dont think that kind of ridiculous price tag is likely to be the asking price, so I would say hell no to the offer you laid out.


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I dont think that kind of ridiculous price tag is likely to be the asking price, so I would say hell no to the offer you laid out.


Actually that's pretty standard. When the Saints traded for the 28th pick in 2011, they paid a 2nd rounder (#56) and a 2012 first. That's almost identical to the scenario above (we'd be giving up a #58 and a 2014 first to get the #26).

As far as the trade itself, no thank you. Trading two good picks for one isn't good for business. This is a really deep draft too. At least when the Saints did that deal in 2011, it was in a not-so-deep draft (the then "BPA" options at #56 sucked that year), but this year, you are looking at a really nice pool of players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Some positions will still have good finds on day 3. If anything, I see a ton of incentive to trade down. Deep drafts are the best kind for stockpiling picks in.


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So the next pick in a deep receiver pool would be the late third round? No thanks.

In the scenario proposed, Seattle is likely to be the team giving up the first round pick for a second and next year's first. Not the one moving back into the first.

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Nah, don't like that idea.

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Eh, I'd only do it if we got our DL pick and Hopkins was still on the board somehow!


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S your want to trade a future first for a first in a weak draft?

No. That's the opposite of what we want to do. I'd rather trade out of this years first for future firsts than accumulate picks in a weak draft.

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I'm with Scottemojo on this, unless, somehow S. Richardson/K. Short, Ansah or Hopkins was still there. After getting a DT at 25' either one of those guys would put us over the top. We would be giving up a pick that is close to being a 3rd and next years 1st might as well be a second round pick. So, looking at it through rose colored glasses, we would be giving up a 2nd and a 3rd for an elite player.

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Depends on who they would pick I guess...but hey, trading the 32nd pick next year is not the end of the world


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I voted "no" but I've got faith in JS & PC to do whats best for the Seahawks.

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ivotuk wrote:
I'm with Scottemojo on this, unless, somehow S. Richardson/K. Short, Ansah or Hopkins was still there. After getting a DT at 25' either one of those guys would put us over the top. We would be giving up a pick that is close to being a 3rd and next years 1st might as well be a second round pick. So, looking at it through rose colored glasses, we would be giving up a 2nd and a 3rd for an elite player.


That's pretty much my thought too. If there's a guy who you know would be a great addition now then you're essentially losing out on a second rounder and getting that player from near the top of your draft board rather than risking what appeared to happen with the Carpenter pick (ie the value at a position of need might not be there next year). I think that given the strength of our squad at the moment, if we can add 2 first round players to immediately fill gaps and give us a stronger chance or winning it all next season that a late 2nd could be a small price to pay.

However, I agree with those of you who think that we're more likely to trade down. English has been projecting someone like the Bills or Chiefs trading back into the 20s for a QB and I'm sure that Schneider would be all over that possibility. And frankly, at this stage, whatever Schneider decides is a winner in my book.


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JS views the draft like a dart board and his picks as darts. The more darts he gets the more likely he is to hit the bullseye. I see us trading our 1st or 2nd round pick for even more picks rather than the opposite.

edit: Like Scott said.


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JS views the draft like a dart board and his picks as darts. The more darts he gets the more likely he is to hit the bullseye. I see us trading our 1st or 2nd round pick for even more picks rather than the opposite.

edit: Like Scott said.


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Warmack/Cooper and Ogletree or maybe Richardson would be fine by me. The only reason I'd say guard is ok is the value is probably pretty damn good at that point even if we don't have need. Ogletree and Richardson would be the other option. Or maybe just both.

Personally if that's all sitting on the board I'm calling to trade back a few spots and still get a good player.


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I have the sense that John and Pete will end up trading Matt Flynn on draft day by swapping either 2nd round or 3rd round picks with one of the QB-needy teams picking at the top of each round like KC or Jacksonville... or the Browns.

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Maybe for Richardson. But probably not anyone else.

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