SoulfishHawk":18i33kk3 said:4-4 with 8 to play, 4 home games in Dec. But yeah, there's "no chance" at playoffs. Ok.......
Right? God it's fun listening to fans overreact after a loss.
Not.
SoulfishHawk":18i33kk3 said:4-4 with 8 to play, 4 home games in Dec. But yeah, there's "no chance" at playoffs. Ok.......
Seymour":1zimj65x said:Northwest Seahawk":1zimj65x said:Seymour":1zimj65x said:Northwest Seahawk":1zimj65x said:At some point Wilson he has to play well enough to win against good teams and he hasn't done it this year not once. These next few games are going to tell a lot about Wilson. So we'll see but right now i'm starting to seriously doubt Wilson is the QB that we need to get back to the playoffs . He is not a QB that can carry a team to the playoffs without a ton of help. The only defense for this game today is the Chargers are flat out a better team and will probably play in the AFC Championship.
BS.
Stat line against the Rams. 13/21 198 yards 3TD 132.5 RTG and no picks compared to 2 for Goff.
That is playing well enough to win. The defense gave up 33 points so we lost by 2.
It's one game and it wasn't good enough to win.
You said "Not Once" against a good team didn't you?
Clearly it's good enough. He had 3 TD's and a 132 rating. You expect more for a QB than that then throw more than 21 flippin' attempts!
Wilson is just as often a victim of his offense (Pete Carroll). Many ignore that, and expect late game crank it up heroics. :177692:
Northwest Seahawk":20zd1thu said:Seymour":20zd1thu said:Northwest Seahawk":20zd1thu said:Seymour":20zd1thu said:BS.
Stat line against the Rams. 13/21 198 yards 3TD 132.5 RTG and no picks compared to 2 for Goff.
That is playing well enough to win. The defense gave up 33 points so we lost by 2.
It's one game and it wasn't good enough to win.
You said "Not Once" against a good team didn't you?
Clearly it's good enough. He had 3 TD's and a 132 rating. You expect more for a QB than that then throw more than 21 flippin' attempts!
Wilson is just as often a victim of his offense (Pete Carroll). Many ignore that, and expect late game crank it up heroics. :177692:
I'm not going to argue with you were not making the playoffs for the second consecutive season and Wilson is a large part of the reason.
Seymour":1sdgg7z8 said:Northwest Seahawk":1sdgg7z8 said:Seymour":1sdgg7z8 said:Northwest Seahawk":1sdgg7z8 said:It's one game and it wasn't good enough to win.
You said "Not Once" against a good team didn't you?
Clearly it's good enough. He had 3 TD's and a 132 rating. You expect more for a QB than that then throw more than 21 flippin' attempts!
Wilson is just as often a victim of his offense (Pete Carroll). Many ignore that, and expect late game crank it up heroics. :177692:
I'm not going to argue with you were not making the playoffs for the second consecutive season and Wilson is a large part of the reason.
Sure he is. And since you're on a one man blame crusade, losing 6 pro bowl players and top picks like Penny and McDowell has nothing to do with it. :roll: ukeface: :177692:
Northwest Seahawk":3gko0zgp said:Seymour":3gko0zgp said:Northwest Seahawk":3gko0zgp said:Seymour":3gko0zgp said:You said "Not Once" against a good team didn't you?
Clearly it's good enough. He had 3 TD's and a 132 rating. You expect more for a QB than that then throw more than 21 flippin' attempts!
Wilson is just as often a victim of his offense (Pete Carroll). Many ignore that, and expect late game crank it up heroics. :177692:
I'm not going to argue with you were not making the playoffs for the second consecutive season and Wilson is a large part of the reason.
Sure he is. And since you're on a one man blame crusade, losing 6 pro bowl players and top picks like Penny and McDowell has nothing to do with it. :roll: ukeface: :177692:
Maybe the Chargers were just a bad matchup and Wilson will be great the rest of the year I guess we'll find out. I agree the drafting needs to be better in round one, there's know doubt it's caused a lack of talent. Keenan Allen looked like a man among boys out there. Seattle had nothing like that on Offense.
lukerguy":2ocp6be4 said:Scorpion05":2ocp6be4 said:LOL. Guy plays with no running game last year, throws 34 TD passes, leads the team in rushing, and suddenly he's a "game manager who can't play without a running game"
He had a bad game. Like virtually every QB has had against great competition. The QB on the other side couldn't sniff the playoffs until the possibility of this year when he has talent loaded all around him. This is a really weak point with the sole intention of creating division on this board
A lot of those yards were garbage yards from playing from behind- Blake Bortles had some pretty incredible statistical seasons due to this same reason.
I honestly believe there is no one better to handle a game at QB when there is a running game present- which means if he is a game manager, he's the best one... but I just tend to see him as a very good QB. I don't see him with Brees, Brady, Rodgers anymore, but I still see him as a top 10 QB, and those players are very tough to find.
Russ had a brutal game, that's for sure, but the team is very close to being an excellent club. My question is, why did the run stop working all of a sudden?
Seymour":2dh2bz4w said:Northwest Seahawk":2dh2bz4w said:Seymour":2dh2bz4w said:Northwest Seahawk":2dh2bz4w said:I'm not going to argue with you were not making the playoffs for the second consecutive season and Wilson is a large part of the reason.
Sure he is. And since you're on a one man blame crusade, losing 6 pro bowl players and top picks like Penny and McDowell has nothing to do with it. :roll: ukeface: :177692:
Maybe the Chargers were just a bad matchup and Wilson will be great the rest of the year I guess we'll find out. I agree the drafting needs to be better in round one, there's know doubt it's caused a lack of talent. Keenan Allen looked like a man among boys out there. Seattle had nothing like that on Offense.
I don't have to wait. Wilson WILL have another off day this year just like every other top QB will too. And we'll hear all the same shit we've been hearing for 7 years now. The only difference is some fans will be barking the shit that opposing teams used to.
Wilson no doubt had an off day, but why does losing Carson mean we have to lose hope against good teams? You can see the drop off with Davis, and there is a further drop off to our 1st round RB....WHY?? We cannot draft a GREAT RB without falling into an injury situation with a late round flier like Carson, yet our offense absolutely is reliant on a top 10 RB.
That is the main problem with our Pete ball offense.
Northwest Seahawk":1eyqob3y said:That pick six was horrid. The defense shut out the Chargers in the second half and Wilson could not string together any consistent play he looked scared in the pocket he hates it in there. We'll see how he does down the stretch but playoffs not a chance that's gone. I'm really tired of watching Wilson play mediocre football against good teams.
Scorpion05":ti9ulyon said:Northwest Seahawk":ti9ulyon said:That pick six was horrid. The defense shut out the Chargers in the second half and Wilson could not string together any consistent play he looked scared in the pocket he hates it in there. We'll see how he does down the stretch but playoffs not a chance that's gone. I'm really tired of watching Wilson play mediocre football against good teams.
That’s wonderful.
See, people like myself can say Wilson played like shit yesterday. He had a bad game, it happens. Others have said the same thing
But guess what?? If we make the playoffs, if Wilson throws 34 or more TDs again, and if he wills us to victory(again) where will you be? Will you be here to admit you were wrong? Nope, because the few of you Wilson haters have never admitted you’re wrong over the years.
Nope, what you and others on here are going to do is ignore it, overly praise another player or the defense, and only come out of the woodworks when Wilson has a merely good or average game. Wilson has to play perfect to get even a wee bit of credit from some of you, and that’s unfortunate. I look forward to the silence on this board when he start winning again and the fake outrage when we lose
Northwest Seahawk":1fjgfjnq said:Seymour":1fjgfjnq said:Northwest Seahawk":1fjgfjnq said:Seymour":1fjgfjnq said:Sure he is. And since you're on a one man blame crusade, losing 6 pro bowl players and top picks like Penny and McDowell has nothing to do with it. :roll: ukeface: :177692:
Maybe the Chargers were just a bad matchup and Wilson will be great the rest of the year I guess we'll find out. I agree the drafting needs to be better in round one, there's know doubt it's caused a lack of talent. Keenan Allen looked like a man among boys out there. Seattle had nothing like that on Offense.
I don't have to wait. Wilson WILL have another off day this year just like every other top QB will too. And we'll hear all the same shit we've been hearing for 7 years now. The only difference is some fans will be barking the shit that opposing teams used to.
Wilson no doubt had an off day, but why does losing Carson mean we have to lose hope against good teams? You can see the drop off with Davis, and there is a further drop off to our 1st round RB....WHY?? We cannot draft a GREAT RB without falling into an injury situation with a late round flier like Carson, yet our offense absolutely is reliant on a top 10 RB.
That is the main problem with our Pete ball offense.
Carson is the catalyst to this offense, like it or not he's the best thing they have and were reliant on great RB because of Wilson's inconsistent play . That's pretty clear if you ask me.
Shanegotyou11":ptrutjq6 said:doctorsubie":ptrutjq6 said:I partly agree--Wilson isn't 1st tier, but there are very few who are. Brady, Rodgers, Brees come to mind.
Wilson is probably 2nd tier. I'd put Cam Newton, Patrick Mahomes, Matt Ryan in that category. Could the Hawks be more effective with someone like, Andrew Luck? Perhaps. But we'll never know, it's purely hypothetical.
I'm not ready to throw Wilson out with the bathwater just yet. I also think he's more injured than we know--his runs on his run-pass option looks really slow...
Cam is not the qb russ is. Not % wise nor td to int ratio. He is the better runner is all.
semiahmoo":2qod63lx said:Northwest Seahawk":2qod63lx said:Seymour":2qod63lx said:Northwest Seahawk":2qod63lx said:
Maybe the Chargers were just a bad matchup and Wilson will be great the rest of the year I guess we'll find out. I agree the drafting needs to be better in round one, there's know doubt it's caused a lack of talent. Keenan Allen looked like a man among boys out there. Seattle had nothing like that on Offense.
I don't have to wait. Wilson WILL have another off day this year just like every other top QB will too. And we'll hear all the same shit we've been hearing for 7 years now. The only difference is some fans will be barking the shit that opposing teams used to.
Wilson no doubt had an off day, but why does losing Carson mean we have to lose hope against good teams? You can see the drop off with Davis, and there is a further drop off to our 1st round RB....WHY?? We cannot draft a GREAT RB without falling into an injury situation with a late round flier like Carson, yet our offense absolutely is reliant on a top 10 RB.
That is the main problem with our Pete ball offense.
Carson is the catalyst to this offense, like it or not he's the best thing they have and were reliant on great RB because of Wilson's inconsistent play . That's pretty clear if you ask me.
He's not Brady or Rodgers [/u]and he never will be.quote]
Did you watch the GB v NE game last night. If so, is Rogers a game manager, not elite. Brady's team won but he wasn't all that great either.
xray":3cdqxnas said:Elite? Did I miss something? I don't hate Wilson because he plays for the Hawks ; but I also don't hold up his poster with one hand...Wilson is somewhat better than an average QB...but elite?...Nope
RCATES":32nxmcdj said:https://mobile.twitter.com/Curtis_Crabtree
The Seahawks have lost their last five games dating back to last season when Russell Wilson has thrown 30 or more passes in a game.
Sorry folks this has game manager written all over it. It’s not about being a hater. It’s not about causing drama with other fans. It’s whats staring you right in the face watching the game. It’s even worse Live. Seattle’s 2-5 at Home their last 7. Unheard of a couple years back. No Lynch has exposed Wilson. This wasn’t simply about Guss knowing how to play Wilson. It’s becoming a common trend against good teams. The cats been out of the bag on how to contain Wilson for some time now. Bruce Arians was the master Architect.
SoulfishHawk":3d3m7olq said:He rode the coattails? Really? You couldn't be more wrong. They don't make EITHER super bowl without Russ AND that D and Running game. ALL those things needed to be on point to make it. But if you think they make the Super Bowl without Russ, you are just another in a line of many clueless Russ bashers.
Because, we never get that here or in Seattle. And Tony Romo? :roll: