Which Russ Wilson would you rather have, current or rookie?

[lukerguy]

Consider:

Rookie
-Cheap cap hit
-Inexperienced
-Faster
-Less spotlight
-No Ciara factor

Current
-Experienced
-Poised
-Better pocket passer
-Can better read defences
-Ciara factor
-$$$ cap hit

I have no agenda, just curious. Also, this is a one year hypothetical. So if you pick rookie, that doesn't mean you get Sophmore Russ next year... etc.

 

[John63]

Consider:

Rookie
-Cheap cap hit
-Inexperienced
-Faster
-Less spotlight
-No Ciara factor

Current
-Experienced
-Poised
-Better pocket passer
-Can better read defences
-Ciara factor
-$$$ cap hit

I have no agenda, just curious. Also, this is a one year hypothetical. So if you pick rookie, that doesn't mean you get Sophmore Russ next year... etc.

So point of note the Ciara thing in either category is BS as you can not prove that her being around or not has had any affect on his play. Why not just say first wife or 2nd wife? OR hey say no kids, kids, or anyone of a number of things that there is no proof has had any affect on his play. Putting Ciara on there begs the question why what is your real motive. Inserting the thing I would have expected that being Shotty or Bevel you don't have instead Ciara. Hmm

 

[xray]

current but with the rookie contract. :lol:

 

[IndyHawk]

Rookie contract version:
He could run back then and that is what made
him so dangerous combined with a good RB.
He always has been able to throw deep.
Very easy answer for me.

 

[jammerhawk]

Ciara factor? What???

He’s happy, has a family, is stable.

These are all positives.

Present day RW is a better QB than younger RW. Even then he was pretty good.

 

[fenderbender123]

If I choose the rookie version, will that erase the knowledge the rest of the league has on how to pressure him?

I miss those plays where Russ would have a guy chasing him and he'd spin around and roll out in the other direction.

 

[pehawk]

He was the best player in the NFL late 2012. I'd pick that one.

 

[McGruff]

I'd pick the one he is becoming.

 

[xray]

The current ...But he has definitely lost speed...2012...33 sacks for 203 yards lost....2018 ...51 sacks for 355 yards lost. All the more reason to give him more pass plays from the pocket. IMO

 

[sutz]

Current. Experience matters.

 

[lukerguy]

Ciara factor? What???

He’s happy, has a family, is stable.

These are all positives.

Present day RW is a better QB than younger RW. Even then he was pretty good.

Rookie Russ was just a young kid with a bright smile.
Current Russ is a slicked back baller with tons of dough and GLAM.

Make of that whatever you want but that’s just the facts.

 

[pehawk]

Can we change this poll to what Ciara would want? Safe to say Russ is the better father and husband but we all know Future surpasses him in the intamacy department. I've had a few woman flat out tell me "You know Future (insert curse) better".

 

[toffee]

ROOKIE Russ, give me that one anytime.

 

[The Breh]

Ciara factor? What???

He’s happy, has a family, is stable.

These are all positives.

Present day RW is a better QB than younger RW. Even then he was pretty good.

Rookie Russ was just a young kid with a bright smile.
Current Russ is a slicked back baller with tons of dough and GLAM.

Make of that whatever you want but that’s just the facts.

And a better football player.
That's what we're after, no ?
Despite his amount of loot and being "flashy", he could be doing a whole lot worse with his time and money.
That man is a damn role model and a stand up one at that.
'19's climate makes talking about his wife a thing.

 

[Uncle Si]

The current ...But he has definitely lost speed...2012...33 sacks for 203 yards lost....2018 ...51 sacks for 355 yards lost. All the more reason to give him more pass plays from the pocket. IMO

Do you think some of this is coaches asking him to settle for negative plays instead of taking big hits on the scramble?

 

[pehawk]

The current ...But he has definitely lost speed...2012...33 sacks for 203 yards lost....2018 ...51 sacks for 355 yards lost. All the more reason to give him more pass plays from the pocket. IMO

Do you think some of this is coaches asking him to settle for negative plays instead of taking big hits on the scramble?

I do.

 

[xray]

The current ...But he has definitely lost speed...2012...33 sacks for 203 yards lost....2018 ...51 sacks for 355 yards lost. All the more reason to give him more pass plays from the pocket. IMO

Do you think some of this is coaches asking him to settle for negative plays instead of taking big hits on the scramble?

To be honest ; I have no clue as to how Wilson had been utilized by coaching for along time. I would rather he eat the downs once in awhile than get taxied off the field after a big hit .He's been very lucky in that respect ; but in this league it's a sure thing that he will get laid out eventually . The OL worries me in this regard...weak pass protection.

 

[kobebryant]

Consider:

Rookie
-Cheap cap hit
-Inexperienced
-Faster
-Less spotlight
-No Ciara factor

Current
-Experienced
-Poised
-Better pocket passer
-Can better read defences
-Ciara factor
-$$$ cap hit

I have no agenda, just curious. Also, this is a one year hypothetical. So if you pick rookie, that doesn't mean you get Sophmore Russ next year... etc.

We're really gonna mention a man's wife on here. The things people feel comfortable talking about under the security of internet anonymity :34853_doh:

 

[toffee]

Consider:

Rookie
-Cheap cap hit
-Inexperienced
-Faster
-Less spotlight
-No Ciara factor

Current
-Experienced
-Poised
-Better pocket passer
-Can better read defences
-Ciara factor
-$$$ cap hit

I have no agenda, just curious. Also, this is a one year hypothetical. So if you pick rookie, that doesn't mean you get Sophmore Russ next year... etc.

We're really gonna mention a man's wife on here. The things people feel comfortable talking about under the security of internet anonymity :34853_doh:

We don't know for sure, if the wife has a major influence on a player's time and focus, then talking about the influence is fair game. I believe the OP's inclusion of Ciara was due to Russ's ever increasing of non-football activities since Ciara, you can vote without taking the Ciara factor into consideration.

 

[MD5eahawks]

As far as I am concerned they are the same. Russell Wilson IS the QB I want and have. I don't think there really is a difference. Except maybe the $$. But I don't think that is as much an impact on him as it is on the rest of the team.