Willyeye":1h6mthvy said:
My trade suggestion was to trade pick #26 for perhaps pick #45 and pick #75. In fact, even on the old values chart that most teams still use as a reference point, pick #26 is worth 700 points...pick #45 is worth 450 points and pick #75 is worth 215 points for a total of 665 points. I don't get where my scenario would warrant a 2017 1st round pick also.
You're right. May be overstating the return.
That big a drop is not common. The most recent examples each indicate that would be a 1st round pick for 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks
2010:
Ravens give #25
Broncos give #43, #70, #114
2013:
Patriots give #29
Vikings give #52, #83, #102, #229
Of the two, the latter is probably more indicative since the 2010 trade was executed pre CBA. So you're going to ask for more than just a 2nd/3rd/4th. The 4th in the latest trade was about 15 spots better than the Vikes' native 4th round pick.
Schneider has been very reluctant to drop too far in trade back deals. He's stated that he likes to hit the pockets of talent and that's oftentimes fluid. We're good at figuring out who teams will take, but it's hard to account for possible trades that shake the draft order up. We have shown to be much more comfortable trading back in small amounts -- and if need be multiple small amounts. Instead of one big trade back.
I suspect it aligns with the other aversion of his: Don't trade for future draft picks. We philosophically like to have a good read on who we can get when we move around. Big trades or next year trades is trading for the unknown.
For us to get from 26 to 45, I think it takes two deals. Maybe three. And given that he's indicated that the draft pool this year is far more steady and even through the first 3 rounds as opposed to having steep shelves of talent like when we drafted Britt -- I think the landscape is ripe for a move back. I would see us looking to be fluid (up or down) depending on how the board takes shape by pick 15.