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F!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F WORD! Gosh damnit. What a brutal way to lose the season. Runner on 2nd and no outs, can't score him. Lost for words. F
Crizilla":3vl8hkm4 said:how lame for the ball to bounce like that right to first base. The AL is stacked this year....m's can't get lucky. But I like what Servais and Dipoto did in their first year. I'll remember this season because of the incredible come back against SD, Cishek's disasters, Aoki's outfield blunders, marte's terrible defense, and the walk off dingers. This sucks but there were about 10 losses this season that really really hurt. Clean up some stuff and we're a 90+ win team. I just hate seeing a career year from Cano get wasted.
Offense played their mind out tonight (except for Marte of course). PItching ultimate doomed this team. End of story.
Hawk-Lock":1iqbhm5p said:Yeah I don't really know what to think about the season. I guess I have to be pleased with the huge improvement from last year, but at the same time this was Cano's third year and still no playoffs. The window for this team is very small. Unfortunately, the window has likely closed on Felix. It's too bad that we were unable to make the playoffs in Felix's prime. That same door that shut on Felix this year will likely shut on Cruz within a year or two, and Cano within a few years.
My cause for concern is that we've never built off of good years:
2014: We went 87-75, next year we went 76-86
2009: We went 85-77, next year we went 61-101
2007: We went 88-74, next year we went 61-101
2014 was a younger and better team IMO, and we fell flat on our face in 2015. The fixes to this team are clear and IMO not huge. I think we can all agree we need to find a starting shortstop. Marte is not the answer. I wouldn't mind finding a LF/RF who can hit for some power. But most importantly, and we've never really had this need in a long time, but we need a legit starting pitcher. Most likely someone who can lead the rotation. Felix is no longer an ace. We don't have an ace on this team. I'm not sure who is a FA or who we can trade for, but we need to add a dominant starting pitcher.
I liked most of Dipoto's moves and think we will be good but how good depends on breaks/injuries.The Trumbo trade wasn't very good but you couldn't predict how he did this year.As for this year we came up just short and I hope the manager learned a few things about closers and using RP's who just suck period.I was very impressed by the offense compared with the ones we had the last few years.There is hope and I think we will take steps up.It was fun in here most of the time this year guys.I will see you next spring..GO HAWKS!!!West TX Hawk":1cm1o5ai said:Hawk-Lock":1cm1o5ai said:Yeah I don't really know what to think about the season. I guess I have to be pleased with the huge improvement from last year, but at the same time this was Cano's third year and still no playoffs. The window for this team is very small. Unfortunately, the window has likely closed on Felix. It's too bad that we were unable to make the playoffs in Felix's prime. That same door that shut on Felix this year will likely shut on Cruz within a year or two, and Cano within a few years.
My cause for concern is that we've never built off of good years:
2014: We went 87-75, next year we went 76-86
2009: We went 85-77, next year we went 61-101
2007: We went 88-74, next year we went 61-101
2014 was a younger and better team IMO, and we fell flat on our face in 2015. The fixes to this team are clear and IMO not huge. I think we can all agree we need to find a starting shortstop. Marte is not the answer. I wouldn't mind finding a LF/RF who can hit for some power. But most importantly, and we've never really had this need in a long time, but we need a legit starting pitcher. Most likely someone who can lead the rotation. Felix is no longer an ace. We don't have an ace on this team. I'm not sure who is a FA or who we can trade for, but we need to add a dominant starting pitcher.
Agreed on all counts. The difference between the '07 to '14 teams and this team is the GM though. No Bavasi blunders, no Fat Jack jackass. DiPoto is highly competent and I fully expect him to make many more moves this offseason to get us over the hump.
The only major blunders DiPoto made was trading away Trumbo and possibly Montgomery but overall he did well with what he had to work with. I honestly don't see DiPoto letting this team slide again no matter what. Servais had too long of a leash last night on all the pitchers and it cost us and he had some questionable handling of the staff at times this year, but he and DiPoto with their long working relationship, I do not feel will let this team deteriorate.
Definitely need a new starting SS, another power bat in the OF, possibly another 1b and indeed another couple quality starting pitchers and some turnover in the pen. Tall tasks but I'm confident DiPoto will address all these issues.
In a few days I will close this thread and start a new Mariners off-season thread, but I'll let this thread continue for a bit more.IndyHawk":g1o9pm2a said:I liked most of Dipoto's moves and think we will be good but how good depends on breaks/injuries.The Trumbo trade wasn't very good but you couldn't predict how he did this year.As for this year we came up just short and I hope the manager learned a few things about closers and using RP's who just suck period.I was very impressed by the offense compared with the ones we had the last few years.There is hope and I think we will take steps up.It was fun in here most of the time this year guys.I will see you next spring..GO HAWKS!!!West TX Hawk":g1o9pm2a said:Hawk-Lock":g1o9pm2a said:Yeah I don't really know what to think about the season. I guess I have to be pleased with the huge improvement from last year, but at the same time this was Cano's third year and still no playoffs. The window for this team is very small. Unfortunately, the window has likely closed on Felix. It's too bad that we were unable to make the playoffs in Felix's prime. That same door that shut on Felix this year will likely shut on Cruz within a year or two, and Cano within a few years.
My cause for concern is that we've never built off of good years:
2014: We went 87-75, next year we went 76-86
2009: We went 85-77, next year we went 61-101
2007: We went 88-74, next year we went 61-101
2014 was a younger and better team IMO, and we fell flat on our face in 2015. The fixes to this team are clear and IMO not huge. I think we can all agree we need to find a starting shortstop. Marte is not the answer. I wouldn't mind finding a LF/RF who can hit for some power. But most importantly, and we've never really had this need in a long time, but we need a legit starting pitcher. Most likely someone who can lead the rotation. Felix is no longer an ace. We don't have an ace on this team. I'm not sure who is a FA or who we can trade for, but we need to add a dominant starting pitcher.
Agreed on all counts. The difference between the '07 to '14 teams and this team is the GM though. No Bavasi blunders, no Fat Jack jackass. DiPoto is highly competent and I fully expect him to make many more moves this offseason to get us over the hump.
The only major blunders DiPoto made was trading away Trumbo and possibly Montgomery but overall he did well with what he had to work with. I honestly don't see DiPoto letting this team slide again no matter what. Servais had too long of a leash last night on all the pitchers and it cost us and he had some questionable handling of the staff at times this year, but he and DiPoto with their long working relationship, I do not feel will let this team deteriorate.
Definitely need a new starting SS, another power bat in the OF, possibly another 1b and indeed another couple quality starting pitchers and some turnover in the pen. Tall tasks but I'm confident DiPoto will address all these issues.
Hawk-Lock":myhetga2 said:Ok I feel a lot better now. Both Toronto and Baltimore won, so even if we won yesterday we still wouldn't have made the playoffs.
This ^ ^ ^Uncle Si":2j0ls25c said:Fun year... Watched alot more baseball this year than I have in awhile.