So, if Lynch is not on reserve/retire list by Wed.

[NYCoug]

Just Marshawn being Marshawn. If the dude waited until the last possible minute to sign a contract that was going to pay him big bucks, what makes people think he's in such a rush to fill out some boring retirement paperwork?

 

[Tical21]

When I saw the green cleats dangling from the wire, a part of me thought that maybe he was simply signifying the end of his career with the Seahawks, not necessarily his playing career.

 

[bjornanderson21]

LOL you got to enjoy a Super Bowl championship because of this guy. And there's a very high likelihood that you won't again for a long time to come. Like the previous poster said, as soon as a healthy Marshawn wasn't in the picture, the team barely made the playoffs.

Stop being ungrateful. It's not even your money.

Huh?

Lynch sucked last year, and we got better when he stopped playing.

We would have been better off without him last year so Im not sure why you would say that.

Also, Lynch sucked in our Super Bowl victory. He helped us get there, but he didn't really help us win.

 

[chris98251]

LOL you got to enjoy a Super Bowl championship because of this guy. And there's a very high likelihood that you won't again for a long time to come. Like the previous poster said, as soon as a healthy Marshawn wasn't in the picture, the team barely made the playoffs.

Stop being ungrateful. It's not even your money.

Huh?

Lynch sucked last year, and we got better when he stopped playing.

We would have been better off without him last year so Im not sure why you would say that.

Also, Lynch sucked in our Super Bowl victory. He helped us get there, but he didn't really help us win.

Of course not, Denver stacking the box and focused on him never opened up the passing game, granted the defense put things away anyway but your biased view is so old that we all just wish you would change your name to Bjorntheviking.

 

[hgwellz12]

Internet message boards = A GIFT & A CURSE

SMDH

 

[SixSeahawk]

LOL you got to enjoy a Super Bowl championship because of this guy. And there's a very high likelihood that you won't again for a long time to come. Like the previous poster said, as soon as a healthy Marshawn wasn't in the picture, the team barely made the playoffs.

Stop being ungrateful. It's not even your money.

Huh?

Lynch sucked last year, and we got better when he stopped playing.

We would have been better off without him last year so Im not sure why you would say that.

Also, Lynch sucked in our Super Bowl victory. He helped us get there, but he didn't really help us win.

Aren't you a Vikings troll who hates Marshawn?

I should make a compilation of all your anti-Marshawn posts.

 

[Popeyejones]

The Hawks would be dumb not to release him.

I can't imagine they actually want him back at his salary, meaning it's a no lose proposition to just grant him his release before retirement.

To be totally honest about it though, Lynch is still 29. IMO anyone who isn't expecting him to be in the rotation on the Raiders in the next 24 months is fooling themselves, IMO.

 

[Popeyejones]

He's a thug, he was our thug but always a thug.

Racist.

What's funny is that if you're from the East Bay you know that there's almost an entire generation of guys (now between the ages of say, 22-35ish) who look and sound exactly like Lynch does.

Some were thugs and by this point have done several bids and others are now doctors and lawyers.

A MUCH higher proportion of those guys than anyone outside of the East Bay would imagine are now working in various non-profit organizations (e.g. at-risk tutoring programs, gang prevention, social justice orgs, arts & media non-profits, community centers, etc.).

Those guys are really hard to typify. They were, like, a generation of black, weed smoking, social justice, artist, thug hippies.

More so than any group of people I've known before you really can't typify them by what they look and sound like. It's a bunch of guys who talk and dress the same but really come in all different types.

 

[scutterhawk]

^^^ I concur.

We really need to get better at enjoying off season intrigue. After all, why should Peyton Manning and Bronco Fans corner the market!

Yeah, More unnecessary Drama.

 

[Torc]

The team chose to not go after his signing bonus as a courtesy and show of respect (and quite probably a PR move). It's not unreasonable to expect him to show the same courtesy and respect to the organization and the fans. (His teammates likely support him getting every dollar he can.)

If he forces them to release him so he can play for another team then they should go after the bonus dollars.

 

[Hawks46]

There's about 6 million reasons why they shouldn't release him. Treating guys nice is one thing, but bending over for them has to stop somewhere.

They've already said they won't go after his signing bonus, so it doesn't matter.

 

[scutterhawk]

At almost every level, the team has consistently done what is best for the team.

This has meant cutting people that had earlier restructured their contracts to help the team. Given that is how a smart front office needs to work, but loyalty isn't really something a player expects from any good FO. They do what is best for the team and what is the best decision for the future.

Given that, I am not sure why people would be upset that players would do the same thing. Marshawn has to do what is best for himself. I think he has earned that right anyway, considering that the one year we did not run everything through Marshawn is the one year we almost missed the playoffs completely.

He carried this team to multiple SBs, so he gets the benefit of the doubt.

He didn't carry anything >all by his lonesome<, it was and IS a team Wins and Losses.....The Defense did it's exceptional job of getting us to the big dances, it's not an individual sport....Russell Wilson isn't responsible for either of the Super Bowl runs or wins or losses >all by his lonesome<, and because it is a TEAM sport, no single player gets to claim that they've carried a team.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Also, Lynch sucked in our Super Bowl victory. He helped us get there, but he didn't really help us win.

You keep reinventing rock bottom for posting, its quite impressive.

Yeah.. Marshawn didn't run well against 8 in the box.. but lets just gloss over him carrying the entire offense against New Orleans or being the big reason we came back to win the NFC title game.. and lets just gloss over all the other times he put this team on his back - literally.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Basis4day]

I am not sure how this article can be true. Lynch's 2016 portion of the contract does not become fully guaranteed after next week. He has $5 million of signing bonus remaining - $2.5 million for 2016, and $2.5 million for 2017 - which is the amount the Seahawks could seek to have returned, or it becomes the cap hit. His 2016 base salary of $6.5 million is not guaranteed - so the Seahawks could cut him any time between now and June 1st and receive $6.5 million in extra cap space. If cut after June 1st, I believe that the Seahawks can elect to have the $5 million dead money spread over the next two seasons...but not certain about that part. The only way his entire salary would be guaranteed would be if some sort of mystery clause existed to move the base into a guarantee

Either way, the Seahawks have moved on. If Lynch changes his mind, I am 100% certain the Seahawks will cut him. They may cut him anyway to make certain that both parties are able to put this behind them.

The article never says that the Hawks will take a cap hit of 11.5 million as the OP suggested. It says that "They need to clear him off the roster by Wednesday, or the Seahawks will carry a cap number of $11.5 million for Lynch into the new league year."

Which is true. If he doesn't file retirement papers or the Hawks don't release him he effectively remains under contract as outlined by his current terms. It's not really an issue until Week 1 of 2016 season when his salary becomes guaranteed for the year as a vested veteran.

 

[TwistedHusky]

It might have been a team effort, but the reality is that the one year we were without his services, was the year we almost missed it. How did we do in the playoffs with him vs without him?

Our run game kept the defense rested, which meant less chances for 4th quarter collapses like last year.

And Lynch was surprisingly durable considering the punishment he took. Sure, he was beaten out by Rawls last year but Rawls ended up injured. So that durability ended up important.

Now truth be told, a lot of our problem last year stems from the loss of our secondary, but Lynch kept the defense rested, he kept the pressure off Wilson and he was easily just as important a piece in our SB run as Wilson. As evidenced by the reality that without him, even with Wilson even being BETTER - it wasn't enough.

Without Lynch this team does not each the SB once, much less twice. And for that, if he wants to go play for Oakland, a city he came from and that he is active in - not sure why we would begrudge him. Sure there is some signing bonus $ but he brought this city 1, almost 2 championships. Was it worth it?

If he wants to go bring some of his championship attitude and expertise to the Raiders, in order to life up his hometown - is that such a bad thing when we were not planning on using/keeping him anyway?

 

[Torc]

If he wants to go bring some of his championship attitude and expertise to the Raiders, in order to life up his hometown - is that such a bad thing when we were not planning on using/keeping him anyway?

It's not such a bad thing. He can go to the Seahawks and request a trade. He could probably work something out. Chances are, the FO would go for it if he requested it. But, assuming he is just working the retirement system (which we have only speculation about), he wants to have his cake and eat it too.

Retiring and taking the $5 million in signing bonus from the team is fine. It's not fine if he's just working the system, wants his $5 mill for a year of rest and then intends to play for another team.

 

[hgwellz12]

He's a thug, he was our thug but always a thug.

Racist.

What's funny is that if you're from the East Bay you know that there's almost an entire generation of guys (now between the ages of say, 22-35ish) who look and sound exactly like Lynch does.

Some were thugs and by this point have done several bids and others are now doctors and lawyers.

A MUCH higher proportion of those guys than anyone outside of the East Bay would imagine are now working in various non-profit organizations (e.g. at-risk tutoring programs, gang prevention, social justice orgs, arts & media non-profits, community centers, etc.).

Those guys are really hard to typify. They were, like, a generation of black, weed smoking, social justice, artist, thug hippies.

More so than any group of people I've known before you really can't typify them by what they look and sound like. It's a bunch of guys who talk and dress the same but really come in all different types.

What's REALLY funny is that you even have to explain that to anyone who is alive and has a minimal amount of working brain cells in their cranium. People need to go outside more.

 

[Laloosh]

If he burns them in any way, good luck to the next guy that tries to ask them to move money up.

Will wait and see but I don't see the benefit for either party if he doesn't file the paperwork.

 

[Chawks1]

According to Overthecap.com calculator if we designate him a Post June 1st cut we save $9mill in salary cap this year, not the $6.5m everyone reports.

I'm sure the Seahawks have an understanding with Beastmode that if he agrees not to file is paperwork, they will not ask for his $5m in signing bonus back.

PC and JS have it under control.

 

[scutterhawk]

It might have been a team effort, but the reality is that the one year we were without his services, was the year we almost missed it. How did we do in the playoffs with him vs without him?

Our run game kept the defense rested, which meant less chances for 4th quarter collapses like last year.

And Lynch was surprisingly durable considering the punishment he took. Sure, he was beaten out by Rawls last year but Rawls ended up injured. So that durability ended up important.

Now truth be told, a lot of our problem last year stems from the loss of our secondary, but Lynch kept the defense rested, he kept the pressure off Wilson and he was easily just as important a piece in our SB run as Wilson. As evidenced by the reality that without him, even with Wilson even being BETTER - it wasn't enough.

Without Lynch this team does not each the SB once, much less twice. And for that, if he wants to go play for Oakland, a city he came from and that he is active in - not sure why we would begrudge him. Sure there is some signing bonus $ but he brought this city 1, almost 2 championships. Was it worth it?

If he wants to go bring some of his championship attitude and expertise to the Raiders, in order to life up his hometown - is that such a bad thing when we were not planning on using/keeping him anyway?

So....Lynch goes down with injury, followed by Rawls and the run game basically goes into the shitter..... Wilson opens up an industrial size drum of kick-ass, and salvaged the second half of the Season.
I'm not one bit caring if Lynch wants to play for the Raiders, I say, more power to it, BUT, his "Dramma" shit with the Seahawks is getting old.
Why not just call the hand.