IndyHawk":xf8j7d4o said:People are never going to be happy..We don't have a lot of cap space to buy an elite OL
Zombie Hawk":238b3k7q said:I dont hate the signing but is this going to be another off season where Schneider scrapes the bottom of the barrel for lineman in order to bring in "competition". Lets go out and get a proven guy! :229031_banghead:
Sgt. Largent":2pt13awi said:Lang is visiting next week, I'd be much more excited about that signing. Joeckel's been mediocre at best for the Jags.
bandiger":31mh46x2 said:Sgt. Largent":31mh46x2 said:Lang is visiting next week, I'd be much more excited about that signing. Joeckel's been mediocre at best for the Jags.
Probably be the second best lineman on this team if he's healthy other than Britt I don't think this team had an average lineman :lol:
Seymour":2ke7obpy said:IndyHawk":2ke7obpy said:People are never going to be happy..We don't have a lot of cap space to buy an elite OL
My question would be...Is this a more certain talent than Okung for around the same $$??
Doubt it personally.
Attyla the Hawk":m1fp1vyp said:Siouxhawk":m1fp1vyp said:There you go Attyla ... one of your guys!
I love this deal when you compare it to Kalil's deal. Even compared to Wagner's deal.
He may have been a bust at #2 overall. But do we all not think he's going to be an upgrade to either Fant or Gilliam?
Getting a modest 1 year prove it deal for a player of his youth. I like the deal, even if I'm not super bullish on the player. What it does do is add to the mix. Seattle has flexibility at OT competition should they need to go that route (meaning Gilliam and Fant don't show improvement in TC).
It's a one year patch. This is a bad year for OL. Perfect allocation of modest cap space for a modest answer while freeing up the draft to cull extremely talent rich position groups.
Largent80":7hrjo63m said:This years Sowell.
Spleenhawk2.0":317gfow7 said:Seymour":317gfow7 said:IndyHawk":317gfow7 said:People are never going to be happy..We don't have a lot of cap space to buy an elite OL
My question would be...Is this a more certain talent than Okung for around the same $$??
Doubt it personally.
Okung at the same money? Where did you ever get that notion?
In this market, Okung will get $12million APY. If Matt Kalil gets $11million, Okung clearly gets more. Plus this speculation assumes that Okung would have any interest in resigning with the team
Plus, the max Joeckel can receive is $8million - it appears to be an incentive laced deal.....
This is a great "buy low" deal - Joeckel still has all of the physical tools to make him the #2 overall pick. I would be upset if the Seahawks threw money on a long term deal at any of the other available OL that have signed. Some really bad deals going down today. This is not one of them.
Seymour":50kfrbcg said:IndyHawk":50kfrbcg said:People are never going to be happy..We don't have a lot of cap space to buy an elite OL
My question would be...Is this a more certain talent than Okung for around the same $$??
Doubt it personally.
RussB":1nrdlqu6 said:They should seriously get lang now that all tackles are basically gone off the market. Then maybe draft a nice tackle and this o line could be solid. They need lang though.
West TX Hawk":23yd9qzq said:Largent80":23yd9qzq said:This years Sowell.
another bust to join the other busts on our existing rag-tag line.
Pandion Haliaetus":2z2qwu2e said:Joeckel is a good signing. It's probably the same deal given to Okung by the Broncos. Incentives probably include workout bonus, in his case, rehab bonus, being around the team the entire off-season. Then another small bonus making the roster, then playing time incentives where he has to compete.
It's a plus he can compete at LT/LG.
I also would take any struggling prospect with the Jags with a grain of salt. At only 25, Joeckel is pretty much the same age Moffitt was entering the league. A year younger than when Giacomini broke in with the Seahawks.
And 2 years younger than Robert Gallery, when Cable took the similar struggling high-profiled OT and developed him into a solid contributor at LG.
I like it. If the Seahawks can get Lang, who I assume starts at RG, kicking Ifedi out. Joeckel will compete with Glowinski, and in the least be another body for the LT competition.
Just with the way the OT class in the draft is this year and what Online are getting on this market this shapes out to be a pretty decent addition. A little risk, but tempered with a short-term deal and incentive base qualifiers. This isn't Webb and Joeckel has a much higher ceiling than Sowell.
It's a little step to add talent to the Oline without investing tons of money. Can't hate that. Definitely like this signing much more than Webb and Sowell last season.