RedAlice":3p9yns42 said:
seahawk12thman":3p9yns42 said:
RolandDeschain":3p9yns42 said:
I'll argue this one all day long. Why does the city of St. Louis deserve better?
When the team won they were supported. Maybe you were too young but did you see the Kingdome in the 90's when Behring wanted to move the team?? Remember the blackouts?? The Seahawks were such a joke of a franchise California didn't even want us. The Rams had a great following before Kroenke flushed it down the toilet.
Kroenke didn't ruin the team. Frontiere did on her way out of SoCal. Rams then had a very brief glory reign with the GSOT and then they sucked again. Then end of that is not Kroenke's fault. I've supported the Rams through the winning and losing - so I've no sympanthy for StL fans who say, "Oh, but they've sucked so we don't support them."
Also, stick to facts: St. Louis put a clause in the lease they used to draw the Rams to St. Louis in the first place that clearly and legally stated that they were required to keep the stadium in the top 25% of stadiums. They refused to do this and per the lease the legal right of the Rams was to relocate if this was not met.
So, St. Louis does not deserve better. They should've honored the terms of the lease they used to draw in the Rams in 1994. Per Kroenke, the Rams initially only asked for the right to sue, but St. Louis wanted the right to relocate instead.
It's always very sad when good fans lose their team (I know) and I do have sympathy for good StL fans - especially families that have been going to the games.
But, StL got what they set up for themselves with that lease in 1994 that took my team away. Hard to say they deserve any different since they set it up.
You ignorant statements show you wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face. Kroenke has been trying to move the franchise since 2002. He said so yesterday so he surreptitiously slithered around as the owner of the franchise while being stuck in the lease. He never became part of the community or engage government in anything. Please don't educate me on contract law, that 25% was a way to get out of the city. No city with half a brain cell is going to pump 700 million dollars into a stadium in which it's owner has already said he wants to move. Get Serious!!
The rams had 96 games that were sold out, while it remained the shadow of Cardinals Baseball, it was a main attraction. They have had two historically lousy owners in Bud Bidwell and Stan "the fraud" (not "the Man" he was named after) Kroenke. At least they won when they had the stripper. Nobody gives a flying crap about NFL football in LA. Earth to Alice, LA is already oversaturated with Sports teams; Angels, Dodger, Bruins, Trojans, Galaxy, New Soccer team, Clippers, Lakers, Ducks, Kings. You want to talk about lousy fans, wait till Kroenke runs his Rams in LA like he does the Nuggets in Denver. That palace will have empty seats from the outer rim to shining rim of the stadium. LA fans won't put up with a losing product when there are so many other choices.
Finally, why do I care even if St Louis is a dump? Under the new NFL model, when does the Clink become old and outdated. So many cities dangling you think the NFL gives a shit if the team in South Alaska is gone? You think the owners will cry over not seeing their team fly up to the Pacific Northwest just see their team get its ass kicked, not to mention extra travel costs? This has put the writing on the wall that if you don't pony up a couple billion, your team is for sale. The NFL has said today the hell with the fan punctuated with a huge middle finger. I think you deserve this crappy owner Alice and it won't be long till Stan pulls the next trick out of his hat. Last night the fan of the NFL gets screwed again and there seems to be thunderous applause as the Billionaires make a fool out of us again.