Sgt. Largent":30pn5prd said:
AZ_fan":30pn5prd said:
I do laugh at the comments though that say that other teams have no chance just because the Seahawks are on a roll right now.
I'm here a lot AZ, I haven't seen anyone say other teams have no chance. I think you're exaggerating to help your points.
It's the NFL playoffs, other than the occasional terrible division winner vs. very good team matchup? Usually all very close games.
As far as Arizona, I'm interested to see how your defense changes without the Honey Badger. Because I think it'll be very similar to us without Kam, changes the ENTIRE continuity of the defense.
Maybe I worded it wrong I dunno... I was mainly referring to all the "if we continue to play like we have nobody will beat us" that I've seen multiple times...
We could be 14-0 and I'd still be worried about Carolina. I guess that's just me being a realist.
As for HB... it's a horrible loss but glad it wasn't Carson. The latter would be a season ender... like last year.
Hasselbeck":30pn5prd said:
AZ_fan":30pn5prd said:
You mean 2012... which is about as relevant as the 14-0 Panthers having no chance against the Seahawks because they lost to them last year and the year before right?
No.. you're banging the "Seattle can't win on the road" drum that hasn't been valid for many years. Further the only NFC team that figures to potentially host the Seahawks with a real HFA is Green Bay. The Seahawks have already won in Carolina and Arizona..
I dunno.... I thought we were talking about the RW era... 2012 the team was horrible on the road during the season and lost on the road in the playoffs.
2013 and 2014 they had HFA.... so excuse me for not buying into the whole road thing. Winning in Carolina and Arizona hasn't happened in the playoffs... if it does, I'll eat my crow. If not you can have it.
Since we are talking about how Seattle has already beat Arizona, can I throw in the fact that Palmer is 2-1 against the Seahawks? It's only fair right considering how the Seahawks have dominated us when we've had 3rd string QB's under center.
Anyway, we are 3 weeks away from seeing just how good Seattle is on the road. You'll get your chance to tell me I was wrong.
Polaris":30pn5prd said:
AZ_fan":30pn5prd said:
I fully acknowledge that Seattle is playing better football now than they were 3-4 months ago. But so is Carolina. So is Arizona. So are a lot of teams.
Stop. JUST STOP
By putting it this way you ARE refusing to admit that Seattle really is light years better right now than they were a few months ago, and no Carolina and Arizona really aren't playing at least that much better than they were. In fact Arizona (at least until the Eagles game) was actually statistically playing *worse* than it was earlier in the season.....good enough to still win, true, but worse.
I don't say that. Football Outsiders and DVOA says that. By any objective advanced statistical measure, Seattle is not only playing better but FAR better now than then going from about #10-12 in DVOA to second (first in adjusted DVOA). Arizona has actually dropped and Carolina has been a pretty steady 4-6 region which is excellent but not 14-0 worthy.
Better? Absolutely. Light years? I dunno. How bad were you guys? Nowak and Williams were the flaws right?
I'm really not interested in going on and on about FO and DVOA... in the end W's and L's are all that matter.
Seattle has won 5 straight... Arizona has won 8 straight... Carolina has won 14 straight.
I know... Carolina hasn't played anybody and we lost to Landry Jones.... and 3 of Seattle's 5 wins during their run have come at the expense of the 49ers, Ravens and Browns... the best garbage the NFL has to offer to inflate a team's stats.
We can debate this till the cow's come home but I'd rather not... Have a great rest of your day.
Hawkpower":30pn5prd said:
How is Arizona playing better? By what measure? They are still playing well, but better?
Wins. The same standard that Seattle is graded on.
Peace... I'm out. :th2thumbs: