IcedHawk
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You do a play action bootleg, I think Wilson walks in.
Not too angry about the pass, just the wrong play
Not too angry about the pass, just the wrong play
IcedHawk":1fw5teek said:You do a play action bootleg, I think Wilson walks in.
kearly":2979hn1a said:Wilson put it where it had to be. The defense knew the play was coming and broke on it. Very similar in concept to the play Sherman made against the Texans.
Even if Wilson had thrown the ball a tic sooner, Lockette would have been blasted at the 1 yard line, and if he had held onto the ball, Seattle would have been forced to burn a timeout, which is also a really bad outcome. No way Lockette scores there.
Seattle basically gave the play away when they went 3 WR and the Patriots dictated a pass with their defense. Lockette lined up just behind Kearse in a classic rub route formation. The Patriots see this formation a hundred times a day in practice, so they all knew it was coming. And then told us as much after the game ended. It really was just about the worst play call possible.
kearly":de329oom said:dumbrabbit":de329oom said:You have one timeout, 20 seconds left. Running 3 downs won't do you any good if you don't score a TD. You need to throw one before to save that timeout.
I don't care about the play call, just the wrong pass play.
If you call two running plays in the huddle, you could easily get 3 run plays off. The ball was snapped with about 25 seconds on the clock, and if Lynch gets stuffed, it's not going to take 20 seconds to snap the next play. Probably more like 15 seconds. Which leaves 10 seconds for a run and then a timeout.
The previous play ended with something like a minute left on the clock, Seattle had roughly half a minute to get their run package on the field, but instead Seattle milked the clock down only to put 3 WR on the field. When Pete talks about needing a pass, he is either grossly incompetent or desperate to cover for an OC that wanted showboat. I think it's most likely the latter.
dumbrabbit":19g8zgj2 said:There's one timeout left. Save that. The clock is running, save that timeout with an incomplete pass. Use that timeout after third down.
A play action would have been better as other people have suggested.
NFSeahawks628":1pgmagpp said:kearly":1pgmagpp said:Wilson put it where it had to be. The defense knew the play was coming and broke on it. Very similar in concept to the play Sherman made against the Texans.
Even if Wilson had thrown the ball a tic sooner, Lockette would have been blasted at the 1 yard line, and if he had held onto the ball, Seattle would have been forced to burn a timeout, which is also a really bad outcome. No way Lockette scores there.
Seattle basically gave the play away when they went 3 WR and the Patriots dictated a pass with their defense. Lockette lined up just behind Kearse in a classic rub route formation. The Patriots see this formation a hundred times a day in practice, so they all knew it was coming. And then told us as much after the game ended. It really was just about the worst play call possible.
Wilson didn't put it where he had to be.
He threw it a second early and too high.
A throw to his stomach and chest and were re-pete champs.
Austin Hawk":dg0e6l3d said:I will admit that after sleeping on it, reading and watching dozens of points of analysis, I am backtracking on calling out the INT as the worst call in football. It's easy to question anything in hindsight, especially under the gravity of the situation, but now that I have seen so many facts and explanations and viewpoints, I still don't think it was the BEST call in the situation, but I understand why it was made. It really boiled down to execution, and the fact that a rookie DB made the play of his life.
I believe if we ran that play 100 times in the same situation, same receiver (yes, even Lockette) that we score a TD more than 50% of the time, and it's probably never intercepted more than the one time. It was an unbelievable defensive play, combined with an overconfident leading throw and a receiver not used to being in that position. But I understand it, and have come to terms with it.
I still would have liked a play action rollout, but if Lockette catches that ball yesterday I doubt anyone would be questioning the call.
Jville":229cjxky said:It is a shame that so many here are blinded by the outcome of one play. There were many undrafted players who came up with plays in this Super Bowl. The play of so many undrafted free agents was the theme of yesterday's game. Super Bowl 49 should be remembered as the one where the undrafted and unwanted shined most brightly.
NFSeahawks628":2bgqmw5s said:Wilson didn't put it where he had to be.
He threw it a second early and too high.
A throw to his stomach and chest and were re-pete champs.
kearly":2mpgj7o7 said:dumbrabbit":2mpgj7o7 said:There's one timeout left. Save that. The clock is running, save that timeout with an incomplete pass. Use that timeout after third down.
A play action would have been better as other people have suggested.
I would have been fine with play action. I just think it's insanely wrong to suggest that Seattle couldn't have ran 3 times. Look at the clock after Lynch goes down at the one yard line. A ton of time left.
kearly":2qk3wucn said:dumbrabbit":2qk3wucn said:You have one timeout, 20 seconds left. Running 3 downs won't do you any good if you don't score a TD. You need to throw one before to save that timeout.
I don't care about the play call, just the wrong pass play.
If you call two running plays in the huddle, you could easily get 3 run plays off. The ball was snapped with about 25 seconds on the clock, and if Lynch gets stuffed, it's not going to take 20 seconds to snap the next play. Probably more like 15 seconds. Which leaves 10 seconds for a run and then a timeout.
bandiger":zw0h559t said:You can explain it however you want but stats about Pats goaline defense against the run says otherwise.