gowazzu02
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DomeHawk":2sbrk4qd said:gowazzu02":2sbrk4qd said:I dont think Leach should be any lower then 3 look at what he took over. People forget how truly bad it was at WSU during the Wulff years.
If we wanted to have the conversation I could make an argument that he could be even higher then pete or shaw......
I guess it depends on what criteria you are judging by. I'm a big picture guy so I look at how it all combines to create an overall package. There's X's & O's, player development, recruiting, public relations, character development, etc. Remember, this is collegiate's, there's more to it than just the game of football.
I could even see an argument made for #4 but the top-3 are untouchable because of their skillsets that put them above the others in the conference.
Petersen for his overall organizational skills,
Shaw is the better gameday manager,
and Chip for his innovation.
Having said that, the book is still out on Leach, if he continues to have good seasons, and it becomes apparent it was more than just having a good QB, he will be hard to ignore.
I think the biggest argument for Leach is he's made the casual pac12 fan forget about how much of a disadvantage it is to coach in Pullman.
If we're talking innovation, Leach with Hal Mumme created the Air Raid offense which has basically taken over college football.
What I keep coming back to is imagine what he could do in Seattle with all those resources and 4 and 5 star recruits, or LA with all those 5 star recruits or Stanford who basically gets any kid they want cause of "the Stanford education" or if he had his own Phil Knight willing to buy any asst. coach or facility.
Leach is winning games at the level of those guys mentioned with recruiting classes that are on average 40th or so. He just graduated the QB who owns every meaningful passing record in the conference and that kid was a walk on who was going to play in the ivy league.
As for the book still being out on Leach, his succcess at Tech shouldn't be discounted, Lubbock texas is basically the Pullman of the Big12. There he was fighting it out with Texas and Oklahoma aka UW, Stanford and SC.....
Leach constantly does more with less then any coach in the conference. Maybe any coach in the BCS conferences.