Bigpumpkin
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"Value is in the eye of the beholder". Earl just hasn't found the right "beholder"......and it may be a while before he finds one, too! :177692:
Sgt. Largent":d1ftzt6s said:Seymour":d1ftzt6s said:Because it's a given he is already at that level. Its 2-3 years from now that the big questions with huge contracts will come into play. It may help a little, just not a lot IMO.
Huh?
The given is he's an extremely talented safety, but with recent injury history. That's what's driving down his interest, no one wants to give Earl a massive extension when he's been hurt the last two years.
So yes, one full year of health and high level production would most definitely help Earl, and us.
He still may not get a big extension next year, but the interest would certainly be more if he has a healthy productive year. Maybe more teams come into the trade talks, which means we get a 1st or 2nd, instead of a 3rd or 4th, which is what's been reported.
Assuming we let him walk and don't use the franchise tag on him.Seymour":300h4zjr said:Huh? It doesn't help us. We get nothing for Earl after this season. He is a free agent and we are left with nodda, zilch, Cya. And forget about comp picks too. We will be in the FA market next year and those will amount to nothing...just like this year.
KiwiHawk":pv9mrula said:Assuming we let him walk and don't use the franchise tag on him.Seymour":pv9mrula said:Huh? It doesn't help us. We get nothing for Earl after this season. He is a free agent and we are left with nodda, zilch, Cya. And forget about comp picks too. We will be in the FA market next year and those will amount to nothing...just like this year.
Seymour":3qxqf33m said:KiwiHawk":3qxqf33m said:Assuming we let him walk and don't use the franchise tag on him.Seymour":3qxqf33m said:Huh? It doesn't help us. We get nothing for Earl after this season. He is a free agent and we are left with nodda, zilch, Cya. And forget about comp picks too. We will be in the FA market next year and those will amount to nothing...just like this year.
Correct. But if we tagged him then attempted to trade him anywhere but Dallas, we likely would still get next to nothing out of the deal. I don't think Dallas would have paid him what he wants anyway, at least that is the vibe I got from their last second offer.
Sgt. Largent":kvukfzv4 said:Seymour":kvukfzv4 said:Because it's a given he is already at that level. Its 2-3 years from now that the big questions with huge contracts will come into play. It may help a little, just not a lot IMO.
Huh?
The given is he's an extremely talented safety, but with recent injury history. That's what's driving down his interest, no one wants to give Earl a massive extension when he's been hurt the last two years.
So yes, one full year of health and high level production would most definitely help Earl, and us.
He still may not get a big extension next year, but the interest would certainly be more if he has a healthy productive year. Maybe more teams come into the trade talks, which means we get a 1st or 2nd, instead of a 3rd or 4th, which is what's been reported.
SoulfishHawk":29wj2c50 said:He's missed 7 games his entire career. Injury history?
SoulfishHawk":2odikpbq said:Agree to disagree
Sgt. Largent":1vbm3j54 said:SoulfishHawk":1vbm3j54 said:Agree to disagree
Then why isn't anyone trading for Earl. If he's the HOF safety in his prime that you think he is, shouldn't teams be breaking down our FO's door to trade for him?
Just FT him and we get him for about $21M for the next 2 years combined. 3 years will run about $35M.Seymour":313wtcs2 said:KiwiHawk":313wtcs2 said:Assuming we let him walk and don't use the franchise tag on him.Seymour":313wtcs2 said:Huh? It doesn't help us. We get nothing for Earl after this season. He is a free agent and we are left with nodda, zilch, Cya. And forget about comp picks too. We will be in the FA market next year and those will amount to nothing...just like this year.
Correct. But if we tagged him then attempted to trade him anywhere but Dallas, we likely would still get next to nothing out of the deal. I don't think Dallas would have paid him what he wants anyway, at least that is the vibe I got from their last second offer.
Good post,I think it is spot on.hawknation2018":30wrcdos said:The two biggest things Earl did that will hurt his chances of getting an extension before this season:
1. He publicly contemplated retirement two years ago. No team, and particularly the Seahawks after what happened with Kam Chancellor and Cliff Avril, will want to hand over a massive signing bonus to a player who may decide he doesn't want to continue playing.
2. He threatened a holdout. This further left in doubt his resolve to continue playing football. It also put the Seahawks in a bad position, because acquiescing to his request risks setting a precedent that would encourage future players to hurt the team with a holdout in the pursuit of more financial gain.
These are also the two things that make a trade a near impossibility. The smartest thing for the Seahawks to do is to retain his rights until he decides he wants to play.
The most likely outcome would be for Earl to return before Week 1 and save some face.
Agreed, except the team could franchise him and make him decide to either retire or play under the tag... for at least one year.Northwest Seahawk":37k49xtp said:This is Earl's last season in Seattle unless he dramatically lowers his price tag. That's the reality even then i'm not sure Seattle will be interested in another contract. He picked the wrong time to try this it won't work. My guess he comes in and plays at some point and moves on after this season.