Clayton says Bevell and Cable will be back

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I am just really stoked for the opportunity to possibly see maybe another half a dozen 24 yard first half one 1st down performances in arguably the most important game of the year. I hope we keep Bevell and Cable around for the next decade so we can turn into the Seattle Browns.

I have never seen a couple of idiots do less with more (sportswise) in my entire life. The fact that this is even a topic pisses me off more. If I have to look at that befuddled Forrest Gump look that Bevell has every game I am going to puke.

We are a 6-10 or 7-9 clown show next year. Rams and 49ers are going to kick our ass every game and we will probably split with the Cardinals unless they get a QB.

Honestly factor in that the Seahawks are probably going to lose Avril, Chancellor, Graham, Richardson X 2, and Sherman or Earl take your pick.

Good coaching would have a difficult time making up for those losses. Bad coaching can not make up for those losses.
 

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I remember reading something on Carroll at some point after he got here. I think it might have been after the superbowl win, I can't remember. It went into insane detail about how Pete Carroll does things HIS way. He developed his own overall philosophy of how he wanted to Coach/Run/Build his teams. This overall philosophy is a combination of different specific details of how to run every phase of the team and all sorts of other things. I could be wrong but I was pretty sure there is a book he has about it.

I would tend to take this news seriously because Carroll would have told his coaches how he wants things done and would not bend on how he wants the team to be. I think that all the coaches that are on the staff have had in depth talks with Carroll as he makes sure they stay under the umbrella of what he wants them to do. I mean I know probably about all head coaches would do this, but I really get the feeling from what I had read that he allows pretty much no deviation from his plan because he does not want it watered down/changed/hindered by elements that are not as important to his schemes/philosophy.

As an example, I would bet Cable was told exactly what was required of him in making the most of talent they could bring in with the O-line and, big surprise, Cable stepped up to the challenge and told Carroll he could do what was required. Lower draft o-linemen, presumably, need time to develop because a lot of those players are so raw coming out of college they are really behind the curve. I feel like Carroll assessed that aspect of his team building against his total team vision and probably felt like the team could lean on the defense after that was built how he wanted it and allow the offense time to grow and develop.

This is all purely speculation on my part since I can't remember where/when I had read the article I had come across, but I would imagine that Carroll feels really good about going far next year already before they have even started the offseason.

My points for contention if that is in fact how he feels:

1. Poor discipline with the penalties, which did improve at the end of the season.(Talking about the volume of calls, not the severity of the penalties). Not every game was better but there were games in there where penalties were not a focus of discussion. I feel like Carroll will believe he can definitely get that fixed.

2. Injuries that kept difference makers off the field. Any given year anything can happen on the injury front and I feel like Carroll would hedge his bets that injuries would not mar next season as they did this one.

3. Kicking game. Lots of missed kicks that decided games(Yes, I know that other things happened in a lot of the games lost , but a lot of those kicks would still have led to some wins despite those other issues).(For me this was the biggest alarm bell before our season started. I could not believe we picked Walsh up. I had bad feelings about that, like most did, from the very beginning and felt like that was probably the biggest mistake of their offseason.)

4. Even though a lot of us see what we see, this offense was capable of great things at times with Wilson at the helm. Carroll will really want to get the running game back on track and they will get competition in here to go against Carson. My thought is that Carson and some other back will be our featured backs and i feel like McKissic will take over the Procise role. He probably sees the offense as being much better next year if they get the run game on track. He probably saw encouraging things from pieces on the 0-line and they will continue that process.

Assuming Fant is healthy and he continues to develop as it seemed he had, then he should be a solid piece next year. Pocic is looking to bulk up and I bet they feel he is a piece they can use going forward after gaining experience this year. Obviously, Britt will still be at center. If they somehow keep Brown then the oline would probably pretty much almost be set. With him i feel a lot more comfortable with those other pieces to start the year. That would be 4 of 5 starters already on the team before the offseason really starts. If Brown is not retained I feel a lot more like a lot of the other folks on here upset as hell it looks like Bevell and Cable will be staying. Carroll must feel like they have more to work with this offseason on the oline than they did last year IF he does retain Cable.
 

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Good Grief!

Talk about a lot of hand wringing hyperbole. C’mon fellas it’s freaking Tuesday and the season ended on Sunday. Cable is a coaching candidate elsewhere, so are few other of out team’s coaches. Perhaps Bevel will find he’s wanted for a college HC job. Just b/c the axe has not chopped off all their heads yet doesn’t mean they will be back here next season.

The changes may happen by default or upon an anticipated annual performance review.otr upon the incidence of other factors.


It’s way early yet.
 

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I cant believe they still havent been fired. Im pretty confident now they will keep their jobs. This is a disgrace, coaches have been fired for much less than these 2 bozos. Atleast Cable needs to be ran out of town he is DOG SHIT. I cant believe this clown still has a job after the offensive line has been a shit show for years now. It really honestly baffles how this moron manages not to get fired for being so bad season after season. The worst part is that Pete is well aware of this and just refuses to so what needs to be done.

HE SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!
 

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What does Cabevell have on Pete? Is Carroll THAT stubborn and set in his ways that he refuses to cut the cord and get some fresh coaches? Do they have blackmail ammo on him?! I can't wrap my head around this
 

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mrt144":31kg2jet said:
I'll throw in one humdinger for the last paragraph - Throwing deep balls at secondaries with some reputation for being good, like you don't even scout their aptitudes before the game.

Man I was bewildered when Russ was throwing bombs against literally the best CBs in the league to our short ass receivers. Made no sense whatsoever.
 

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There were people who said the "best thing" for the team would be to miss the playoffs so certain coaches would get fired and "big changes" would happen. The first thing happened and it doesn't appear that the second one will.

So I guess it's onto hoping they win less than five games in the hopes that does it.

Keep hope alive, guys.
 

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Seymour":t3967cqc said:
The Breh":t3967cqc said:
Cyrus12":t3967cqc said:
Or a guy with a lot of character issues...don't worry Pete can work with him..worked out for McDowell...
Lynch
Clark
Richardson
Jordan

We literally have zero idea what he's capable of as a Hawk yet.
Besides crashing an ATV, so I'll jump on that original and expected response before all the guys that think they're funny, do.

Risks are OK if limited to later rounds. Taking risks on your first pick with several serious needs is not a winning formula....period.
Worked out with Clark who was our first pick in '15.
Who's to say that won't be the same with McDowell?
 

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The Breh":3re1ptip said:
Seymour":3re1ptip said:
The Breh":3re1ptip said:
Cyrus12":3re1ptip said:
Or a guy with a lot of character issues...don't worry Pete can work with him..worked out for McDowell...
Lynch
Clark
Richardson
Jordan

We literally have zero idea what he's capable of as a Hawk yet.
Besides crashing an ATV, so I'll jump on that original and expected response before all the guys that think they're funny, do.

Risks are OK if limited to later rounds. Taking risks on your first pick with several serious needs is not a winning formula....period.
Worked out with Clark who was our first pick in '15.
Who's to say that won't be the same with McDowell?

Who's to say I won't win the lotto tomorrow?

Leave the jokes to Mulaney.
 

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The Breh":1j4mx9qu said:
Seymour":1j4mx9qu said:
The Breh":1j4mx9qu said:
Cyrus12":1j4mx9qu said:
Or a guy with a lot of character issues...don't worry Pete can work with him..worked out for McDowell...
Lynch
Clark
Richardson
Jordan

We literally have zero idea what he's capable of as a Hawk yet.
Besides crashing an ATV, so I'll jump on that original and expected response before all the guys that think they're funny, do.

Risks are OK if limited to later rounds. Taking risks on your first pick with several serious needs is not a winning formula....period.
Worked out with Clark who was our first pick in '15.
Who's to say that won't be the same with McDowell?

We robbed Peter the poor man to pay Paul the already incredibly rich man. It was beyond stupid Ramcyzk would have shored up our right side or Robinson or we could have gotten Lamp for interior. Instead we spent another pick on an already loaded D.
 

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randomation":3abb2hc2 said:
The Breh":3abb2hc2 said:
Seymour":3abb2hc2 said:
The Breh":3abb2hc2 said:
Lynch
Clark
Richardson
Jordan

We literally have zero idea what he's capable of as a Hawk yet.
Besides crashing an ATV, so I'll jump on that original and expected response before all the guys that think they're funny, do.

Risks are OK if limited to later rounds. Taking risks on your first pick with several serious needs is not a winning formula....period.
Worked out with Clark who was our first pick in '15.
Who's to say that won't be the same with McDowell?

We robbed Peter the poor man to pay Paul the already incredibly rich man. It was beyond stupid Ramcyzk would have shored up our right side or Robinson or we could have gotten Lamp for interior. Instead we spent another pick on an already loaded D.
So we're criticizing the pick because of the position rather than the "red flags" now ?
For the record I wanted, expected and we needed Oline. I thought it was a given that we went that route. Although they had said Pocic was their man and he flew under the radar.
They said they've been looking for Bennett 2.0 and went for it. Time will tell on him and they still got their man Pocic.
 

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That's why I was bummed when we started coming back in the last game.
I was hoping we'd get pushed around like bitches all game, and management might see there's a BIG problem instead of doing the same thing and expecting different results next year.
 

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The Breh":1iwjfizm said:
Seymour":1iwjfizm said:
The Breh":1iwjfizm said:
Cyrus12":1iwjfizm said:
Or a guy with a lot of character issues...don't worry Pete can work with him..worked out for McDowell...
Lynch
Clark
Richardson
Jordan

We literally have zero idea what he's capable of as a Hawk yet.
Besides crashing an ATV, so I'll jump on that original and expected response before all the guys that think they're funny, do.

Risks are OK if limited to later rounds. Taking risks on your first pick with several serious needs is not a winning formula....period.
Worked out with Clark who was our first pick in '15.
Who's to say that won't be the same with McDowell?

We already lost this season of McDowell and that "forced" a Richardson trade that now looks to be too costly. You going to add that to your "it's working out" formula?

Have you seen his arrest video?

The fact that it worked with Clark just means we are that much closer to getting burned according to how odds work. Play with fire, expect to get burned.
 

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what does any of this have to do with the two assistant coaches.

Stay on topic
 

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I can't wait to see which RB we draft this year. It will be fun to watch him get hit three yards in the backfield, a cornerstone of the Tom Cable blocking scheme.

Around two weeks ago Carson was close to returning. He probably watched the oline in the Rams game and thought... no thanks.
 

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Gee scott said on the John Clayton show that he now thinks Cable and Bevell wont be here next season. I'm not a huge fan of Gee Scott but I do know he has a closer relationship with the players then most other media guys. I think he might have a legit source on this information.
 

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My friends and I have already committed to having a Bye Bye Cable/Bevell party if it happens.
And it's another excuse to :irishdrinkers:
 

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SoulfishHawk":35r262gl said:
My friends and I have already committed to having a Bye Bye Cable/Bevell party if it happens.
And it's another excuse to :irishdrinkers:

So do you choose who to dress up as and then one by one you're all escorted off of the premises in a symbolic 'firing'? :lol:
 

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