volsunghawk
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SalishHawkFan":a3z39uy7 said:I agree totally and, not to beat a dead horse, but I have to wonder...what does that really say about Matt Flynn's outstanding performances? The knock was, well, that's such an outstanding team. If so, then Rodgers really isn't all that special is he? If not and what you say is true, then the knock on Flynn isn't all that legitimate is it?Scottemojo":a3z39uy7 said:I think Rodgers quarterbacks a soft team.
When they won the title, that was an outstanding defense, and it took a defensive play from a DB to keep the Falcons from beating them in the 4th. The Pack rediscovered a dormant run game in those playoffs too.
Since then, they have squandered a 15-1 season in full on wimp style, and almost completely lost the will to run the ball. The run game is purely a changeup for them, a problem they are trying to fix with running backs. Too bad I think it is an OL issue.
The D-line has miscast players now, and they have lost the nasty they need to stop the run. Raji should not be a nose ever, and the linebackers are adequate only, with the exception of Matthews.
Point is, outside of Rodgers and his pass catchers, that is a team with holes and has been for a while now. A GB team that is not built to win in the cold is kind of dumb. Rodgers 4th quarter difficulties agianst winning teams could be a result of those things too.
Flynn's performance against the Lions in 2011 included a 4th quarter where the Packers trailed and then took the lead. However, that game included something that didn't happen a single time in the 18 games I looked at for Rodgers: the Packers D picked off the opposing QB to end a scoring threat. If you look at the gamelog, Stafford had completed 3 straight passes to move from the Lions 20 to the Packers 37 in 37 seconds. Detroit still had a timeout and were a legitimate threat to score. Had the Lions scored, that game ends 48-45, Lions. Does that increase or decrease the knock on Flynn?
The point is that if you look at that 18 game sample from Rodgers, he had some excellent performances and some bad ones. They just happened to all be in losses. If you look at every single other regular season game Rodgers has played as the starter, he's gone 52-10 while leading an offense that (in his time as starter) has ranked in the top 5 in points scored in every season but 1 since 2008 and ranked in the top 10 in yards in 4 out of those 5 seasons. So let's not try to take that 18-game sample where the offense SOMETIMES faltered and use it to prop up some ridiculous notion that Flynn wasn't playing with such outstanding weapons.
1-game samples are stupid. :34853_doh: