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Surely you are jokingdrastik":2uffbumu said:Shows how worthless the 4th quarter comeback stat is..
Surely you are jokingdrastik":2uffbumu said:Shows how worthless the 4th quarter comeback stat is..
RolandDeschain":1dl6gegj said:Too much work to look up. You do it. Either way, this is for his whole career, and at least one of those years, his defense played exceptionally well.
jkitsune":35rylvem said:but (IMO) the narrative that this statistic suggests that Rodgers is subpar in the 4th quarter or under pressure is misguided.
Scottemojo":kiek9b7z said:Good work Vols.
I would say there was plenty of clutch play in those games. And a few bad plays.
But chalking those up as losses for Rogers is lame. How many of you blame Wilson for losing to Detroit and Atlanta?
RolandDeschain":3na4n0aa said:...I did read it, and that's not quite the same thing. It doesn't tell the entire story. As he himself said in that post, he'd have to actually watch the games to see about some of them. Volsung was just looking up things that you could potentially not blame Rodgers for. He's asking specifically about times he did take the lead, then the defense lost it again.
What I meant by what I said is I'm not willing to go watch the 4th quarters of those 18 games. Plus, in Volsung's post, we don't know how many of those opponent scores were "last-minute scores", or not.
Volsung put in a decent amount of work for that post, and I'm glad for it; but it'd be a lot more than that to actually go watch 18 quarters, lol.
volsunghawk":rg3w5unk said:I mean, I'd be happy to do something like that, but I don't invest that kind of time unless I'm either getting paid to do so or it's the Hawks we're discussing. :mrgreen:
RolandDeschain":1wjtpoh9 said:Take a moment to guess at this, then I'll post the answer. The question is, how many 4th quarter comebacks has Aaron Rodgers led against teams above .500 in his career? (That is, teams that finished the regular season with a winning record.)
Think about it for a moment. I would say a good number for an elite quarterback would be 50%, or something around that number. You can't expect to win 'em all; and they aren't responsible for defensive breakdowns or a great special teams play by the opponent, and stuff like that. Regardless, think about what percentage you consider would be the minimum for any QB to meet if they were elite. 35% of 4th quarter comeback attempts against winning teams needed to be elite? 53%? Whatever that number is, think about it compared to what that number is for Aaron Rodgers, posted below.
Kearly, Scotte, Absolut, and other NFL minds of the forum; are you guys as blown away by this as I am? I'm flabbergasted. It makes me smile, considering how much of an "NFL Golden Boy" Rodgers is, too; not going to lie. Russell Wilson already has four 4th-quarter comebacks including the playoffs, and all four were against winning teams! http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... r=WilsRu00
What does this say about Aaron Rodgers when the pressure is really on?