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Off season game tape review will change what we're seeing in Jimmy G. Just look at how Dak is doing this season.
SoulfishHawk":83qot4yg said:The same 49ers fans who called themselves "faithful" but only have 15K in their stands, until they start winning. Then magically they become "faithful" again :roll:
You could be right, but I was definitely right today about his UNPREDICTABLE weaknesses. His interception before half time was a really, really stupid throw. Not only was he under pressure and throwing a deep curl into cover four (essentially triple coverage), his reciever slipped and appeared to be cutting off the route shallower than he expected.Popeyejones":3et07xia said:I really like the language of reliable weaknesses. It’s a good way to talk about things.
We don’t know if JGQ has any reliable weaknesses yet. Deep corners could end up being a reliable weakness for him. If so, you play press man single high with a safety patrolling the intermediate middle and you’re starting to neutralize the areas of the field in which he’s already shown the ability to excel. That could be true and it could not. We don’t know if he’s been missing on those throws due to small sample size or due to a more consistent issue. What we do know is that teams haven’t tried to force him into those throws yet. Whatever it is, Jacksonville’s base defense isn’t really designed to take away the areas in which we already know he excels.
Sox-n-Hawks":audimznv said:Off season game tape review will change what we're seeing in Jimmy G. Just look at how Dak is doing this season.
See my huge post above. I highly doubt it.Sox-n-Hawks":11syy3g4 said:Off season game tape review will change what we're seeing in Jimmy G. Just look at how Dak is doing this season.
5_Golden_Rings":1oawwgpx said:You could be right, but I was definitely right today about his UNPREDICTABLE weaknesses. His interception before half time was a really, really stupid throw. Not only was he under pressure and throwing a deep curl into cover four (essentially triple coverage), his reciever slipped and appeared to be cutting off the route shallower than he expected.Popeyejones":1oawwgpx said:I really like the language of reliable weaknesses. It’s a good way to talk about things.
We don’t know if JGQ has any reliable weaknesses yet. Deep corners could end up being a reliable weakness for him. If so, you play press man single high with a safety patrolling the intermediate middle and you’re starting to neutralize the areas of the field in which he’s already shown the ability to excel. That could be true and it could not. We don’t know if he’s been missing on those throws due to small sample size or due to a more consistent issue. What we do know is that teams haven’t tried to force him into those throws yet. Whatever it is, Jacksonville’s base defense isn’t really designed to take away the areas in which we already know he excels.
So yeah, he makes some risky throws from time to time. You never know when it will happen, but st some point it will.
At this point there isn't any obvious thing other than his unpredictable bad decisions. You don't scheme for the unpredictable, you just stay ready for it.adeltaY":13bau6oc said:Clearly the Savior is Rodgers, Brees, Brady level. No reliable way to scheme against him
RationalNiner":3irt89tg said:Starvin Marvin still a big 49er fan I see. I bet he gets buried in his 49er gear and gives the team all his assets in his will. Garapolo balapolo. NFL sucks now. Not sure how anyone watches this crap.
5_Golden_Rings":3mhihypr said:At this point there isn't any obvious thing other than his unpredictable bad decisions. You don't scheme for the unpredictable, you just stay ready for it.adeltaY":3mhihypr said:Clearly the Savior is Rodgers, Brees, Brady level. No reliable way to scheme against him
However, Popeyejones could be right. He might have accuracy issues on deep corner routes. However, I only recall him attempting two or three off the top of my head, and with his inaccuracy issues there is also the added tidbit that he's been heavily pressured on almost all of them. If that's the case, if it's pressure that's affecting his deep game, then you aren't really scheming against HIM as much as taking advantage of the porous offensive line the 49ers have (in particular, the interior part).
I mean, Zane Beadles has been playing TACKLE the last few weeks.
But the dumb decisions, that is something that is kind of a trend with him. He will try to force balls he shouldn't, and he'll throw off his back foot under pressure instead of taking a sack, which is a double edged sword. These are not predictable things, however, except that you can be sure they will happen at random points in the game.
rlkats":281fctl8 said:RationalNiner":281fctl8 said:Starvin Marvin still a big 49er fan I see. I bet he gets buried in his 49er gear and gives the team all his assets in his will. Garapolo balapolo. NFL sucks now. Not sure how anyone watches this crap.
And yet you still waste tour beautiful time trolling on a hawk NFL message board. Nice careful you might sound like a hypocrite
adeltaY":3toi5hd7 said:5_Golden_Rings":3toi5hd7 said:At this point there isn't any obvious thing other than his unpredictable bad decisions. You don't scheme for the unpredictable, you just stay ready for it.adeltaY":3toi5hd7 said:Clearly the Savior is Rodgers, Brees, Brady level. No reliable way to scheme against him
However, Popeyejones could be right. He might have accuracy issues on deep corner routes. However, I only recall him attempting two or three off the top of my head, and with his inaccuracy issues there is also the added tidbit that he's been heavily pressured on almost all of them. If that's the case, if it's pressure that's affecting his deep game, then you aren't really scheming against HIM as much as taking advantage of the porous offensive line the 49ers have (in particular, the interior part).
I mean, Zane Beadles has been playing TACKLE the last few weeks.
But the dumb decisions, that is something that is kind of a trend with him. He will try to force balls he shouldn't, and he'll throw off his back foot under pressure instead of taking a sack, which is a double edged sword. These are not predictable things, however, except that you can be sure they will happen at random points in the game.
But the video I posted shows he has a mechanical flaw that impacts his deep passing. You can scheme against that reliably, no?
adeltaY":34azynuj said:5_Golden_Rings":34azynuj said:At this point there isn't any obvious thing other than his unpredictable bad decisions. You don't scheme for the unpredictable, you just stay ready for it.adeltaY":34azynuj said:Clearly the Savior is Rodgers, Brees, Brady level. No reliable way to scheme against him
However, Popeyejones could be right. He might have accuracy issues on deep corner routes. However, I only recall him attempting two or three off the top of my head, and with his inaccuracy issues there is also the added tidbit that he's been heavily pressured on almost all of them. If that's the case, if it's pressure that's affecting his deep game, then you aren't really scheming against HIM as much as taking advantage of the porous offensive line the 49ers have (in particular, the interior part).
I mean, Zane Beadles has been playing TACKLE the last few weeks.
But the dumb decisions, that is something that is kind of a trend with him. He will try to force balls he shouldn't, and he'll throw off his back foot under pressure instead of taking a sack, which is a double edged sword. These are not predictable things, however, except that you can be sure they will happen at random points in the game.
But the video I posted shows he has a mechanical flaw that impacts his deep passing. You can scheme against that religious ably, no?
Bobblehead":2e0rvjkm said:Going to be interesting if the 9ers go after Jimmy G as a FA, then choose Barkley with their 1st round draft choice... scary.
AF_BASS_MAN":r8r1jppg said:Bobblehead":r8r1jppg said:Going to be interesting if the 9ers go after Jimmy G as a FA, then choose Barkley with their 1st round draft choice... scary.
The Niners don’t have to “go after” Garoppolo I’m free agency. They will obviously try to negotiate a long term deal with him and his agent, but they can also just franchise tag him. Either way he will be a Niner next year. But all reports seem to indicate that the Niners will pay the man, and he will be their QB for at least 4-5 years. Their GM already said in an interview that they want him for a very long time.
If they freakin’ snag Barkley in the draft....I swear I will go outside and punch a wind chime.
Bobblehead":low9ymzj said:Going to be interesting if the 9ers go after Jimmy G as a FA, then choose Barkley with their 1st round draft choice... scary.
Popeyejones":trh2yl61 said:Bobblehead":trh2yl61 said:Going to be interesting if the 9ers go after Jimmy G as a FA, then choose Barkley with their 1st round draft choice... scary.
Agreed on Barkley, but they could get Ryan Jensen AND James Hurst for the price of Graham and still have money left over for another piece, and that would be MUCH, MUCH more scary.