2014 Seattle Mariners

[davidonmi]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-bas ... ose-weight
good christ u would think last year would've been a wakeup call, GROW UP!
If I'm Lloyd he's starting the year in single A, give him a god damn reality check

 

[Sports Hernia]

Another over-rated Yankee prospect, sigh.
You would have thought with all of the "wall singles" this guy hit in his first 2 seasons, that would have been clue one to get into better shape. Edgar would smoke this guy in a foot race, and Edgar was slug slow.

 

[3Girls'HawkDad]

Mariners?



Fart

 

[Atradees]

Any Nelson Cruz updates?

Need more hitting like this guy.

To be honest though if pitchers 3 to 5 are managed well
We will win more games. Probably not until then.

 

[hawker84]

Our number two starter down with a finger injury, and it starts already, what's this first day of spring ball? nice...

I'll remain cautiously optimistic, there's some potential there, but some of the younger players are going to have to step up their game, i still think we're a couple players away from being legit contenders for the division. Sadly i still place us in the basement even with 80+ wins...

 

[Tical21]

No Nelson Cruz please!! The PED guys are shells of their former selves. Don't pay that dude 60+ million bucks.

 

[Uncle Si]

No Nelson Cruz please!! The PED guys are shells of their former selves. Don't pay that dude 60+ million bucks.

wouldnt be more than 2/20 and an option for a 3rd year...

id rather look elsewhere as well, but... for 10 mil a year over 2 years it isnt that bad

 

[CrimsonWazzu]

So long Guti.

His IBS has taken him out of 2014.

 

[Uncle Si]

So long Guti.

His IBS has taken him out of 2014.

hello Nelson Cruz

(and Donny Almonte, which is a good thing)

 

[davidonmi]

Cruz is a completely different issue, we sign or don't sign cruz because of his bat.
With the Guti injury we need a guy with veratility in the OF, Andres Torres please

 

[Uncle Si]

Cruz is a completely different issue, we sign or don't sign cruz because of his bat.
With the Guti injury we need a guy with veratility in the OF, Andres Torres please

Cruz was a bit more than a bat. he plays the outfield... better than Hart and LoMo (which granted isnt saying much). why give time to a player like Torres (who is what, 35?) when you can use Almonte?

With Cruz, our outfield now looks like: Saunders-Ackely-Cruz-Almonte with Hart/LoMo taking situational duties at times

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Just trade for Alejandro de Aza, Matt Kemp, or Joc Pedersen, please.

 

[SeatownJay]

So long Guti.

His IBS has taken him out of 2014.

I stopped considering him a member of the team back in '12.

 

[davidonmi]

Cruz is a completely different issue, we sign or don't sign cruz because of his bat.
With the Guti injury we need a guy with veratility in the OF, Andres Torres please

Cruz was a bit more than a bat. he plays the outfield... better than Hart and LoMo (which granted isnt saying much). why give time to a player like Torres (who is what, 35?) when you can use Almonte?

With Cruz, our outfield now looks like: Saunders-Ackely-Cruz-Almonte with Hart/LoMo taking situational duties at times

crus is a terrible defensive OF, and if Saunders ig oing through one of his extended slumps we need someone who can play CF, I guess almonte would work

 

[Uncle Si]

Cruz is a completely different issue, we sign or don't sign cruz because of his bat.
With the Guti injury we need a guy with veratility in the OF, Andres Torres please

Cruz was a bit more than a bat. he plays the outfield... better than Hart and LoMo (which granted isnt saying much). why give time to a player like Torres (who is what, 35?) when you can use Almonte?

With Cruz, our outfield now looks like: Saunders-Ackely-Cruz-Almonte with Hart/LoMo taking situational duties at times

crus is a terrible defensive OF, and if Saunders ig oing through one of his extended slumps we need someone who can play CF, I guess almonte would work

Cruz isnt "terrible"... he's not great, but he's far more serviceable than people give credit for.

I'm not advocating for Cruz by the way. I'm just not alarmed if we do sign him. I'd prefer Smelly's approach, trade Franklin and another AA piece for one of Alejandro de Aza, Matt Kemp, or Joc Pedersen and sign Jimenez

 

[davidonmi]

^ agree 100% on De Aza

 

[SonicHawk]

Cruz is a completely different issue, we sign or don't sign cruz because of his bat.
With the Guti injury we need a guy with veratility in the OF, Andres Torres please

Cruz was a bit more than a bat. he plays the outfield... better than Hart and LoMo (which granted isnt saying much). why give time to a player like Torres (who is what, 35?) when you can use Almonte?

With Cruz, our outfield now looks like: Saunders-Ackely-Cruz-Almonte with Hart/LoMo taking situational duties at times

crus is a terrible defensive OF, and if Saunders ig oing through one of his extended slumps we need someone who can play CF, I guess almonte would work

Cruz isnt "terrible"... he's not great, but he's far more serviceable than people give credit for.

I'm not advocating for Cruz by the way. I'm just not alarmed if we do sign him. I'd prefer Smelly's approach, trade Franklin and another AA piece for one of Alejandro de Aza, Matt Kemp, or Joc Pedersen and sign Jimenez

Alejandro de Aza? Oh god. That guy is as bad at the plate as he is in the field. I think Jimenez isn't a bad deal, you know he has the upside of being great but he would have to be on a contract similar to what Guti had gotten.

Would like to see Kemp in a Mariners jersey but I'd take Pedersen before him.

 

[davidonmi]

How is de aza terrible? Career 275 and he was almost a
20/20 player this year

 

[SonicHawk]

He was a -.3 WAR last year. Almost had as many Ks as H.

Also a -2.1 dWAR

 

[Smelly McUgly]

He was worth 2.2 WAR last year according to Fangraphs.

Almost as many Ks as hits? He'll fit right in on this team!

Anyway, a 2-2.5 WAR CF should be (relatively) cheap in trade.