Tech Worlds
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My lord this place ain't changed much over the years
At what point do you realize they do? Metcalf, Lockett, JSN, Williams, Murphy, Hall, Mafe, Witherspoon, Love, Cross, Walker, etc. Seattle's a flawed team. They are not some black hole of talent. And let's be clear: when I was blaming talent on the O-line and the front seven for Seattle's struggles the last two seasons, people were telling me it was a scheme issue. Now, these same people have inverted their arguments. I wonder why.Wow. At what point will it take you to realize they don't have the talent to compete for a title? What do you need to see for you to believe it? How many stars are on the Hawks' roster? How many? How many near .500 seasons does there need to be before you believe? The Oline has less than $20 million invested in it and is one of the worst in the league and you and JS think it's a post season/championship caliber roster.
If JS thinks this is a championship caliber roster than he needed to go with Pete, because he's part of the problem.
Let me just say this, I promise you the current roster will look different next season.
Pretty myopic view of the team. But youve been beating the 'they have no players' drum for a while.Could they not see or understand the state of the team? The Hawks are an average to bad team and have been for the past 3 or so seasons. For the life of me, I don't know how anybody truly thought they would beat Buffalo. There's an enomous amount of things that need fixed with only so many resources and so much time. I said it earlier on that I thought Seattle was probably the worst team in the division and that may be true. MM might not be the answer long term, but he's a proven defensive guy and he at least should have the team headed in the right direction by year 3. So calm down. It's going to be a process and it should have been expected.
Additionally, fans are pretty much the same for every team. We're not special.My lord this place ain't changed much over the years
I said the statement that the line is similar to last year is flat out wrong and it is. Going into the year, 3 out of 5 starters are different than last years starters. The fact that Stone Forsythe our third stringer is still here and made some starts doesn't change that fact.I get into arguments because I defend my posts against lazy attacks/responses—like the guy who said I was "flat out wrong" for saying Stone Forsythe started last season. I don't care if people are on my side or not. You telling me the line is not similar because it is 60% the same is semantics. That's you and others disagreeing with my characterization or word choice. There is nothing incorrect with my statement, though. Yet, here you are, telling me there is based on your arbitrary interpretation of the word.
At what point do you realize they do? Metcalf, Lockett, JSN, Williams, Murphy, Hall, Mafe, Witherspoon, Love, Cross, Walker, etc. Seattle's a flawed team. They are not some black hole of talent. And let's be clear: when I was blaming talent on the O-line and the front seven for Seattle's struggles the last two seasons, people were telling me it was a scheme issue. Now, these same people have inverted their arguments. I wonder why.
Again, we don't need to assume what JS thinks. He told us. You just don't believe him. And I agree, the roster will be different, but not for the reasons you think. The average roster turnover rate is around 45%. Change is a constant.
Simple fact is, bad coaching nullifies talent. Good players lose when the coaching sucks. And good culture eroded when leadership fails.
The problem is NOT the talent.
So... you think the roster is the issue, yet fault Pete for getting 9-8 out of a roster that Jesus Christ himself in your view couldn't push into contention?Again, at what point is the coaching not the problem? Pete couldn't succeed with this roster and now an entire new regime is having the same struggles. There isn't a staff in the league that could get a good post season run, yet a title out of this roster.
So... you think the roster is the issue, yet fault Pete for getting 9-8 out of a roster that Jesus Christ himself in your view couldn't push into contention?
I don't get it, man. Why fire him if roster construction was the issue? Why not advocate to shitcan John Schneider instead, who by all accounts had a larger hand in making most rostering decisions than Pete did because Pete let him do the job he hired him for?
This seems incompatible with your arguments from previous years about the state of the team.
Not only that, but the issues we're seeing right now aren't really... the same. This is a roster that has won 4 games while playing in a basic state of confusion in a barely-cognizant offensive scheme and a defense that doesn't even know how to fit the run yet.
With how poor the overall execution has been and just how devastatingly sloppy the offense in particular has been, one could argue that being .500 is a testament to our talent level rather than an indictment against it.
Who said John Schneider is on the "hot seat"?First, what is 9-8? With the extra game, it's as close to .500 as a team can possibly be. It's a mediocre record and a mediocre roster. What is the teams record now?
Why fire him? The roster we're talking about is his for cripes sake. Also, I do hold JS accountable. He should have been given the boot with Pete and is currently on the hot seat. The only kind of pass I can possibly give him is I still believe Pete had the final say in things and overrode him some. Looking at the big picture now, I wish they would have canned him too.
Previous years, the roster had more talent and was bogged down by incompetent coaching. It's been a steady regression for a long time.
The 4 games Seattle has won have been against teams with no real stature. Mediocre teams beat other mediocre teams all the time.
Yeah, the Hawks might have more talent than some other mediocre teams. What is that going to get you?
I just don't get it Mael. Carroll couldn't do anything with this roster and you seemed fine with that and even applauded his efforts. A new staff was brought in and they are getting similiar results and they are suddenly complete garbage in your eyes. Doesn't make much sense.
Hell, Dan Campbells first year the Lions won 1 game. Can we at least give this staff a chance to make some changes?
Who said John Schneider is on the "hot seat"?
4-4 and it's time to fire everyone. Pretty much standard on here. Oh well. Go Hawks.My lord this place ain't changed much over the years