This free agent’s speed changes the game

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Turner's true elite speed already gives him a skill that separates him from all the other top free agents in this year's class, and notably, the other top free-agent shortstops. And with rule changes coming to MLB in 2023 that should encourage more stealing -- bigger bases that will reduce the distance between them, limits on the number of pickoff throws -- the team that gets Turner will get an even bigger competitive advantage at the top of the lineup.

Fastest avg. "max-effort" SB sprint speed, 2022
Min. 5 SB
1. Trea Turner: 30.0 ft/sec
2. (tie) Bubba Thompson / Tim Locastro: 29.9 ft/sec
4. Julio Rodríguez: 29.8 ft/sec
5. Garrett Mitchell: 29.7 ft/sec
"Max effort": Player's top 50% of SB

 

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Re-opens that old "who's our shortstop" argument. 🤷‍♂️

One of the articles says Turner can play 2d base. Didn't see a lot on his fielding skills there, but his offense would definitely be a plus. Maybe JP would move over. I wonder if they've discussed it with him.
 
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Yeah, you gotta' think the conversations have happened. Just in case. Can't really assume that a SS would be willing to move over. But we can't assume JP would be cool with it.
My gut is that JP would do what's best for the team. If it means adding another legit bat, just do it. If he doesn't like it, he's going to have to learn how to get over it.
 

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The thing is, there's a money question. SS makes more money than 2B, usually. It's the flashier "marquee" position. When you start playing with guys' paychecks they get a little edgy. ;)
 
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The Mariners have to give a draft pick to LA if they sign Turner don't they? I am probably wrong on this...

That's why DiPoto didn't offer Haniger, he didn't want to hamstring Mitch's free agency by the signing team having to give the Mariners a draft pick.

12 players decline qualifying offer; 2 accept​

November 16th, 2022

Dodgers: SS Trea Turner
Turner is not only one of the fastest players in baseball, he’s also a potent hitter, winning a batting title in 2021 and posting a .311/.361/.509 slash (131 OPS+) since the beginning of 2019. Only nine position players across the Majors had more bWAR than Turner (11.2) in the past two years.
Potential 2023 Draft compensation: Pick after the completion of Round 4

 
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Turner has been on the M's radar for several years now.. he's actually a 2nd basemen.
 

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The Mariners have to give a draft pick to LA if they sign Turner don't they? I am probably wrong on this...

That's why DiPoto didn't offer Haniger, he didn't want to hamstring Mitch's free agency by the signing team having to give the Mariners a draft pick.

12 players decline qualifying offer; 2 accept​

November 16th, 2022

Dodgers: SS Trea Turner
Turner is not only one of the fastest players in baseball, he’s also a potent hitter, winning a batting title in 2021 and posting a .311/.361/.509 slash (131 OPS+) since the beginning of 2019. Only nine position players across the Majors had more bWAR than Turner (11.2) in the past two years.
Potential 2023 Draft compensation: Pick after the completion of Round 4

Looks like he would be worth a pick. We're not really in 'build the farm system' mode any more. Sure, we still want to keep players in the pipeline, but we're more in 'win now' mode where a dynamic player like this would be worth it.
 

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Angels are killing this offseason with Gio and Hunter Renfoe.
 

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LAA are trying desperately to convince Ohtani to stay. Hopefully it all blows up in their face.
 

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Santana to Pittsburgh. He came up huge for us multiple times Ms will miss him. I would have thrown him a decent 1-2 year deal.
 

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Santana to Pittsburgh. He came up huge for us multiple times Ms will miss him. I would have thrown him a decent 1-2 year deal.
Clutch situational for sure.. every other time.. no..

Problem is hes going to be soooo much better next year without the shift.. as he got it almost 70 percent of time even as a switcher
 

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Carlos sucked for the most part, he was fun when he hit it though.

Angels are cleaning up. Hate it.
 
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