So now that the game is over...

[Torc]

There is a lot of talent on the team at WR and deciding who gets kept will depend on how versatile the players are after the top 4 who are clearly Locket, Metcalf, Smith-Njigma, and Bobo, really think there will some very tough decisions but am liking Chennault, and Young as the choices if 6 are kept. Truly u certain as to who will be kept of the obvious backups at CB and S

I hate to say this because I really like Bobo, but I don't see how Shenault doesn't beat him out at the #4 WR position. I don't think Bobo is a lock to make the roster. Those last couple of WR slots are pretty competitive.

 

[SNDavidson]

I don't think Grubb will let bobo go, he has a place for him in the offense. That being said, if bobo gogo it would mean that came from the top.

 

[PhxPhin]

I agree with a lot on this thread - I'm glad the experts who lambasted Seattle for not selecting Willis with a first round pick because they had 2 and needed a QB have zero to do with any actual selections

I think Bobo makes it - he has size and elements some of his competition doesn't have. He also has film of doing it against 1s.

I think Shenault is really hard to ignore. I think Eskridge should be fine.

Dareke Young is interesting. Last year he did a much better job at getting into good position than catching passes. He's been hanging on in game opportunities, wonder how he looks in practice as far as hands.

Definitely think the depth has improved and live the first couple strings. I'm less concerned with the pure depth guys closing games that won't be here in a little over a week.

I love seeing Hall & Morris flash - they're both young and developmental and it looks like coaches are experimenting with them a little - especially Morris

Rhattigan looks much better this year - he was very painful last year.

I'll also defend Olu - I thought he looked really solid. There were times he was the only lineman really winning his battle on pass rush, was providing smart help and was able to get to the second level on run plays at ease on multiple occasions. Don't know much about who they had him matched up with (76??), but he was getting the better of him.

I think another consideration in general is there will be different roles and responsibilities with the new staff - especially on defense.

I'm really trying to not let prior bias seep in, because there are players that we just don't know how they are going to be deployed and how that fits to what they can do.

I imagine there will be some learning moments early, but should have a strong idea by Halloween

 

[SNDavidson]

It's Shenault vs. Eskridge basically

 

[MORGULON]

Nah.

For the sake of gentlemanly discussion, would you please elaborate?

Do you not think Howell has earned the backup QB position? He was 11-14 for approx 150 yards . 2 of the 3 incompletions weren't his fault. He drive the team down the field in the last 2 minutes of the first half for a field goal.

If he DOES turn out to be #2 , wouldn't he be one play away from being #1 ?

 

[RockinHawks]

Morris passes the eye test with me..in two games, he's made big plays, stout tackles, batting down passes, and at 6'6" 295, the kid can move. Looks like they're working him in and out along the DL, and also into coverage. He's a S.T.U.D.

At safety, Okada looks like a hungry and talented player. I hope he sticks.

 

[WmHBonney]

Myer gives me panic attacks.

IF Tennessee lets Narveson go, then we should grab him. That kid has a cannon for a leg.

 

[Torc]

It's Shenault vs. Eskridge basically

If Eskridge makes the squad this year, I want to see the pictures he has of John Schneider or Jody Allen.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I hate to say this because I really like Bobo, but I don't see how Shenault doesn't beat him out at the #4 WR position. I don't think Bobo is a lock to make the roster. Those last couple of WR slots are pretty competitive.

They bring 2 distinctly seperate, but powerful skill sets. I don't see Shenault getting #4. I think he becomes the FT returner that is added in certain situations. Bobo is simply clutch...big time value.

But WTF do I know? Prognostications to be tested in 9 days.

 

[olyfan63]

what was up with titans putting rudolph back in over and over after willis couldn't get any points , just seemed they wanted to win a pre season game really bad and if I were willis I'm not sure how i'd feel about that
Never seen that before , heard of it or something like it i guess but it has been a very long time , just reminds me of something toddlers would do before naptime type stuff
Now I'm gonna watch the whiners titans game from last week cuz i am curious , just doesn't make sense , maybe some odd coaching strategy ?

I thought it was the TN coaches trying to "WIN" the game for the sake of the fans. Rudolph as a 7-year vet or whatever knows how to chip away at a 3rd string defense. Willis was not getting it done.

I don't begrudge the TN coaches that, and besides, Willis wasn't able to help the other bubble players on the O show their skills, so there is a legit player evaluation angle also.

When the game ended on a Titans winning FG, I didn't feel cheated, or dejected, I felt like, "let's sign that rookie kicker if TN cuts him".

Inexplicably, Carroll gave Myers a rich contract that has a big cap hit if we cut him. Or do I have that part wrong?

 

[olyfan63]

If Eskridge makes the squad this year, I want to see the pictures he has of John Schneider or Jody Allen.

Ya think Eskridge maybe has a side gig as a flight attendant on Epstein island airlines?

 

[DarkVictory23]

For the sake of gentlemanly discussion, would you please elaborate?

Do you not think Howell has earned the backup QB position? He was 11-14 for approx 150 yards . 2 of the 3 incompletions weren't his fault. He drive the team down the field in the last 2 minutes of the first half for a field goal.

If he DOES turn out to be #2 , wouldn't he be one play away from being #1 ?

Ok, I think I'm following where you are coming from: I.E., if Geno gets injured, now Howell's going to start. I believe I misinterpreted your intention in your original post.

I definitely think Howell is firmly QB #2, Walker has played himself out of contention for that position for sure. (I honestly didn't think there was any real competition for that spot anyway, just based on what the Seahawks are going to want to do with Howell and their respective seasons last year. However, Howell has been apparently pooping the bed in training camp, so I understand why there were questions.)

 

[MORGULON]

Ok, I think I'm following where you are coming from: I.E., if Geno gets injured, now Howell's going to start. I believe I misinterpreted your intention in your original post.

I definitely think Howell is firmly QB #2, Walker has played himself out of contention for that position for sure. (I honestly didn't think there was any real competition for that spot anyway, just based on what the Seahawks are going to want to do with Howell and their respective seasons last year. However, Howell has been apparently pooping the bed in training camp, so I understand why there were questions.)

Very cool . I heard the same thing. I wonder if it was from learning a new system , trying to unlearn some bad habits.

I'm going to say it and might catch some flak.

As of right now , I think Howell IS Seattle's future plan. Yes Geno is better and I'm glad we have him , but I could see Howell taking over in a season or two if they can develop him.

 

[Torc]

I had heard the reports early on in camp about Howell, but nothing more recently. Have there been more recent reports of him not doing well?

Certainly he's done well in the games. And not a single interception in the equivalent of a full game.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Preseason, some good stuff, some sloppy stuff. I still see a team that's a hell of a lot more disciplined overall. Hard to take too much out of these games when several guys haven't even played.

 

[OneLofaTatupu]

I think Okada, Blair, and Winston Jr. all stood out. I think our WR 6 is looking like Metcalf, Lockett, Smith-Njigba, Bobo, Shenault, and Easop.

Howell is firmly QB2. Despite his camp problems, he adjusted quite well after a couple of bad series to start. Walker was pretty terrible.


No OT in pre-season, so it still would have ended but likely not on a FG.


Nah.

If Sam is one play away from being starting QB, Geno is going to have to actively try to tank his game because Sam is not that guy. Serviceable back up, but limited as a starter.

 

[DarkVictory23]

Very cool . I heard the same thing. I wonder if it was from learning a new system , trying to unlearn some bad habits.

I'm going to say it and might catch some flak.

As of right now , I think Howell IS Seattle's future plan. Yes Geno is better and I'm glad we have him , but I could see Howell taking over in a season or two if they can develop him.

I think Howell is our future plan as well, but to me that says next to nothing about Geno's talent (or how Howell's compares).

The Seattle Seahawks version of Geno is much better than Howell to this point. (Frankly, he's better than a lot of other QBs who are looked at as potential 'futures' for their various other franchises.) But Geno's in his mid-30s. Last year, he missed multiple games due to injury.

Lots of folks have pointed out that because Geno was a backup for most of his career, he doesn't have the wear and tear of a guy who had been playing starter minutes for all those years, which, yeah, sure, but there is no amount of sitting on the bench that makes a guy in his mid-30s the same as a guy in their early 20s.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I think Howell is our future plan as well, but to me that says next to nothing about Geno's talent (or how Howell's compares).

The Seattle Seahawks version of Geno is much better than Howell to this point. (Frankly, he's better than a lot of other QBs who are looked at as potential 'futures' for their various other franchises.) But Geno's in his mid-30s. Last year, he missed multiple games due to injury.

Lots of folks have pointed out that because Geno was a backup for most of his career, he doesn't have the wear and tear of a guy who had been playing starter minutes for all those years, which, yeah, sure, but there is no amount of sitting on the bench that makes a guy in his mid-30s the same as a guy in their early 20s.

I agree with this if we are talking about physical ability. Geno is certainly not as athletic as he was 10 years ago...but he is still a QB with decent athletic ability and not having the wear 'n tear probably factors in somewhere.

Depending what the player does with those bench years is part of the calculus as well. I think Geno scores high on growth in the mental aspects of the game, let alone his leadership skills.

I don't remember anyone saying anything negative about Geno from any team other than the Jets. He seems to have earned a high regard from ex teams and teamates.

 

[MORGULON]

I think Howell is our future plan as well, but to me that says next to nothing about Geno's talent (or how Howell's compares).

The Seattle Seahawks version of Geno is much better than Howell to this point. (Frankly, he's better than a lot of other QBs who are looked at as potential 'futures' for their various other franchises.) But Geno's in his mid-30s. Last year, he missed multiple games due to injury.

Lots of folks have pointed out that because Geno was a backup for most of his career, he doesn't have the wear and tear of a guy who had been playing starter minutes for all those years, which, yeah, sure, but there is no amount of sitting on the bench that makes a guy in his mid-30s the same as a guy in their early 20s.

All good points.

In a perfect scenario, Geno plays for the next 2 seasons
And plays well, giving young
Skywalker a chance to learn the process of being a pro NFL QB. I agree that even though Geno doesn't have the wear and tear on his body , things are different physically now in his 30s versus his early 20s.
The physical toll these guys go through over a 4-5 month season is brutal.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's Shenault vs. Eskridge basically

And it's seems like an easy choice. At least from the outside looking in. Shenault brings a lot to the table. I still remember people blasting the move. Kid has some legit talent and a chip.