Mariners lose division for 23rd straight year

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If the teams in a five-team division had an equal chance of winning in any given year, the probability of 23 years of losses is 0.59%.

To get even odds of this happening, the team has to be really bad, with less than a 3% chance of winning the division each year.

Impressive ownership
 

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The year fans finally ignore the Ms totally and T-Mobile resembles Oakland's stadium will probably be the year the Ms somehow win it all.
 

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If the teams in a five-team division had an equal chance of winning in any given year, the probability of 23 years of losses is 0.59%.

To get even odds of this happening, the team has to be really bad, with less than a 3% chance of winning the division each year.

Impressive ownership
Not sure if the Mariners will ever go on sale but the current owner could not care less about going to playoffs or not. He is rather content with no desires to improve the team by using all options on the table.

Wanna sign big time impactful free agent(s)? Look elsewhere cause Seattle will not even try…
 

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JP, Garver, and Haniger all under contract still next year so unless a team trades for them they'll be on the 26 man roster. They probably let Polanco walk. Who's playing first base? If you convince Turner to stay one more year he's probably your best bet. Rojas gets DFA'd most likely. They need to sign or trade for infielders. The outfield is looking decent. The infield is one of the worst in baseball.
 
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It’s a pathetic franchise, probably a bottom 5 major sports franchise.

If given the choice of the team moving and us getting a new expansion team with new owners 10 years later, I’d say move the team.

Until ownership changes, which it won’t anytime soon, it will be more of the same.
 

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Robles is on pace to have more hits than JP and more RBI's than Rojas. That's how pathetic the infield is. You could make the case it's one of the worst ever.

Polanco and Haniger combined 800 AB's, yet Cal has more RBI's than them combined. Unreal.

M's had 830 total AB's in August which resulted in a whopping 170 hits. 31 of those were doubles and 0 triples. Team hit almost nothing but singles and home runs.

Padres have almost 600 less strikeouts than the M's.
 
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The Mariners came in 2nd of all time for strikeouts in a season. The previous #2 was the Seattle Mariners from last year.
They were only 30 away from beating the all time record.
 

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We were literally told the Mariners' goal is to miss the playoffs as much as possible while still keeping attendance up.

They are succeeding wildly, beyond any of my expectations.
 

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FA know if they sign with Seattle their batting average will drop close to 60 points. They gotta make the park more friendly to hitters so their own hitters can hit. Watched a video and the only thing diff is the CF black wall. It’s not at a flat angle to the batter. It’s diff than every other cf black wall. Maybe change that and see.

Plus most teams now know any FA pitcher from Seattle looks good on paper until you see their era in away stadiums.
 

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Hey, at least the Mariners have been to the ALCS more recently than the Cowboys have been to an NFCCG. 😂
 

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It’s a pathetic franchise, probably a bottom 5 major sports franchise.

If given the choice of the team moving and us getting a new expansion team with new owners 10 years later, I’d say move the team.

Until ownership changes, which it won’t anytime soon, it will be more of the same.
This is the way. Nobody goes to watch until Stanton improves the team, sells, or moves. I will happily wait 10 years for the mlb to figure out how to make a profit from the nw again.
 

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FA know if they sign with Seattle their batting average will drop close to 60 points. They gotta make the park more friendly to hitters so their own hitters can hit. Watched a video and the only thing diff is the CF black wall. It’s not at a flat angle to the batter. It’s diff than every other cf black wall. Maybe change that and see.

Plus most teams now know any FA pitcher from Seattle looks good on paper until you see their era in away stadiums.
The supposed marine layer too. I could care less about the pitching advantage. They gotta make the park more hitter friendly
 

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I used to go to all the bobble head games and really try to go to as many games as I could. I even have a JJ Putz bobble head. I saw Richie Sexon charge the mound and fall down. I was at the kings court tribute game to Felix and his perfect game. I have been trying to root for this team for a long time, but Felix’ whole career was wasted. Dustin Ackley was ruined, Julio is starting to look like a true mariner, Ty France fell off, every free agent that comes here all the way back to Chone Figgins has struggled. Are our pitchers really the greatest rotation since the braves had Tom glavine John smoltz and Steve Avery? Or is it just Seattle… I agree, make this stadium easier to hit. The only hitter who has thrived here is ichiro and that’s cause he didn’t try to hit the ball in the air. Our stadium sucks, our owner sucks, our front office sucks, we fired our manager, we trade the leaders of our clubhouse for triple A players. what else could they do to make this place less desirable? I’ve been watching since you could get a Griffey rookie card in a pack at the card shop and I’m actually getting to where I burn out at the end of the year cause it never changes. Even Dan Wilson, don’t get me wrong I love Dan Wilson, but I don’t think Dan was part of Dipsticks plan on building a franchise, Dan was his last resort cause he didn’t know what to do so he hired a hero from the past to appease the fans and dippy just hoped Dan was the man with a real plan…. So tired of this franchise. Why do I have to be a fan….

Dipstick has been here for a decade and now he says “I’m learning from my mistakes” gtfoh
 

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I used to go to all the bobble head games and really try to go to as many games as I could. I even have a JJ Putz bobble head. I saw Richie Sexon charge the mound and fall down. I was at the kings court tribute game to Felix and his perfect game. I have been trying to root for this team for a long time, but Felix’ whole career was wasted. Dustin Ackley was ruined, Julio is starting to look like a true mariner, Ty France fell off, every free agent that comes here all the way back to Chone Figgins has struggled. Are our pitchers really the greatest rotation since the braves had Tom glavine John smoltz and Steve Avery? Or is it just Seattle… I agree, make this stadium easier to hit. The only hitter who has thrived here is ichiro and that’s cause he didn’t try to hit the ball in the air. Our stadium sucks, our owner sucks, our front office sucks, we fired our manager, we trade the leaders of our clubhouse for triple A players. what else could they do to make this place less desirable? I’ve been watching since you could get a Griffey rookie card in a pack at the card shop and I’m actually getting to where I burn out at the end of the year cause it never changes. Even Dan Wilson, don’t get me wrong I love Dan Wilson, but I don’t think Dan was part of Dipsticks plan on building a franchise, Dan was his last resort cause he didn’t know what to do so he hired a hero from the past to appease the fans and dippy just hoped Dan was the man with a real plan…. So tired of this franchise. Why do I have to be a fan….

Dipstick has been here for a decade and now he says “I’m learning from my mistakes” gtfoh
If you look at half the Mariner forums people are already talking about free agency about what players the Mariners could target and get. I'm like wtf have you not been watching this team forever? Everyone was pissed off at the team a month ago. They will give us another steaming pile of dogshit and the fans will eat it up. There is NO help coming from the Mariners ownership/front office to win a championship, once I realized that it broke the game for me. It's all smoke and bullshit and this team is a dud.

It sucks because I can't take my home team seriously and I don't enjoy watching teams from other cities so when the Mariners get eliminated the season ends for me, I didn't watch a second of the playoffs or world series. For those at home watching spending the most money doesn't always equal championships but i'm sure the Yankees can go home and cry in the pile of 27 championship rings about losing this year.

Maybe next year /jerk off motion
 
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It was actually instructive to watch the postseason and see how teams succeed in this day and age.

The Dodgers may not be a fair comparison because they have such a huge payroll, but that team won because it could hit. Their pitching was just middle of the pack, and then a number of their starters got hurt. But they basically outhit the competition.

The last game is a case in point. Because they put the ball in play, they ended up scoring 5 unearned runs due to Yankee errors. They got two timely sacrifice flies in one inning, compared to the number of times the Mariners had a runner on third with no outs and couldn't get them home.

People say that batting average doesn't matter anymore. Funny how the teams in the post season all hit for a higher average. We were second to last. And life is just better when you don't strike out 1,625 times in a season. The Mariners struck out 550 more times than the Padres (1077) and more than 400 times more than the Royals (1161, Astros (1176) and the Guardians (1196).
 

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