Macdonald instant post game presser

[Boycie]

What if Mac comes out and has some legendary post game comments Ala Jim Mora Senior, that would be great!

“We couldn’t get diddly poo on that fourth down attempt in OT….”

Hahahaahah

Playoffs???

 

[Ozzy]

In what universe do we not kick a less than 50 yard FG to get points?

None.

No coach in the league does that. Not a single one.

Kickers miss PATs all the time. You dont pull your starting kicker in OT on a sub 50 yarder. Its not like Dickson was kicking for Myers.

A few weeks ago, Atlanta's kicker missed FG all game and when the game was on the line they marched him out and he nailed a game winner.

You just dont do that.

Again I just disagree. Listening to the Seahawks Overlord podcast from the game Griffin agreed on the play call. They had been moving the ball the whole drive and you had a chance to win the game outright.

I see your point and its a reasonable one but I can totally understand Mike going for it and I think I might of done the same, I'm not sure. I don't think that's why the lost though and not even remotely close to the top of reasons they lost.

 

[JGreen79]

You are tracking the wrong kicker. Myer missed multiple extra point kick last year. More than one is a single game. He HAS produced record stretches of FG conversions though. And I think he has kicked more than one farther than 60 yards out, so there's that.

EDIT: I could be mistaken about the 82 in a row. We finished the year strong last year and might have piled up a bunch of TDs to go with those this year so he may have hit that many in a row. But according to my memory he didn't.

Myers hadn't missed an extra point since week 5 of the 2022 season. Last year was the only year of his career he hasn't missed at least one.

 

[bigskydoc]

The correct call was to go for the win. Two runs up the gut were the wrong call, though.

 

[hox]

The correct call was to go for the win. Two runs up the gut were the wrong call, though.

Correct call was to take the points, and play prevent while limiting explosives. Getting stuffed gave all the momentum back to the Rams.

 

[toffee]

Was he similarly pissed at himself for not taking the points when he knows his oline is trash?

Old Mac seems to love throwing others passive aggressively under the bus. Where’s his accountability?

First off, Young Macdonald, be patient as he is still learning. When he matured into old Macdonald, he won't make these type of mistakes.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The PLAYERS are the ones f'ing up on the field too. They deserve plenty of the blame tree.

 

[HawkFreak]

The correct call was to go for the win. Two runs up the gut were the wrong call, though.

Run up the gut into the pile is the only run play they have. And they weren't using a pass play there when Grubb was giving us the "so I don't run the ball enough" middle finger. they were destined to not get the 1st. Probably should have just kicked the FG.

 

[12th Dimension]

He should have gone for 2 after JSN's last TD. Campbell sure the hell would have.

The stuffed 3rd down play has been our Achilles heel for a decade or so. It was a bad omen.

 

[Jegpeg]

The odds of getting a yard are good when we have one of the worst running games in the league???

At what point this year have we been good at getting a yard??

You cant just decide that 'now we are a good team and should be able to get it' in a game like this with so much ob the line.

And in what other game when Meyers had missed an extra point did we NOT give him a chance to kick a gane winner, or game tying kick?

Answer? NEVER.

But NOW all of a sudden, Meyers cant be trusted? That's nonsense and not even the logic Mike cited in explaining his decision.

He just wanted to pull a power move and put the game away on that drive. He pushed his chips in on an 'attitude' play based on emotion rather than playing the smart strategy.

The odds of getting a yard (or more like half a yard) are good EVEN with one of the worst running teams in the league. We have averages 4.1 yds per carry this season compared with a league average 4.5 so the difference isn't huge. Historically 2 pt conversion attempts are about 49% successful and for those the defence only have to cover the end zone, in a 4th and 2 the defence have to be aware the offence might go for a pass with a screen pass option to get the first down and a WR heading downfield for the TD so an average team should comple a 4 and 2 more than 50% of the time.
If the odds of an average team getting 2 yds is over 50% the odds of a team 10% below average getting 1 yard is significantly more than 50%.

If our run offence was average we should have gone for the 2 point conversion at the end of regulation but because it is poor it was the correct decision to kick the PAT, but on 4th and a half even with our run game the correct decision was to go for it.

Regarding the kick not being a guarantee I am not saying Myers shouldn't be trusted just that you can never assume that if we had made the other option it would be guaranteed successful. If it is early in the game and you ar ejust trying to maximise points you might be comparing a 98% chance of a PAT against a 49% chance of making 2.

With the decision on 4th and a half it is more complex, getting two yards doesn't guarantee a TD, you need to consider the risk of a turnover against the chances of a TD. Even getting stopped later (either via turnover or FG) there would be less time on the clock reducing the odds of the Rams getting downfield.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

First off, Young Macdonald, be patient as he is still learning. When he matured into old Macdonald, he won't make these type of mistakes.

Old Macdonald is getting a farm too!

 

[Ramfan128]

Just an opposing fans view FWIW...

I would have some pretty big concerns about Macdonald.

There are two big indicators IMO for a HC in the NFL - penalties and avoidable mistakes.

Now, every player, every offense, every defense at some point will make a mistake for sure - its how you react to them.

If you go look at the top coaches in the league, its hard to imagine that snap issue happening in back to back games - multiple times. Its not great being so bad with penalties.

The Seahawks have some talent - especially on defense. Yes, you should be able to get a yard - your OL had also been abused all day. AND you are a defensive coach - wouldn't any coach who prides himself on defense (and the defense had played VERY well all day) want to take the points there and put it on your defense?

Momentum is a real thing in sports - I don't think its a guarantee we go down the field if Seattle is up 3 in that situation.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And your Rams and Coach Perfect got the benefit of SEVERAL ridiculous calls. Magically, when the Hawks would have a 3rd down stop.

I will say though, Geno isn't on the same stratosphere as Stafford. It's not even close. Stafford is, and always has been clutch. And very tough.
Geno has proven to be nothing more than an average QB who chokes when the moment is in front of him.

Congrats on the win. Your boys made the play when it was needed.

 

[LeveeBreak]

BS.

He shoukd have kicked the damn FG.best way to get momentum is to comeback and win a game in OT that you should have lost.

Kick the FG and let your D play free knowing they can give up 3 and still be in it.

Stipidest decision i can recall in a long long time. And Pete made his share of dumb ones. Including losing a game to the Rams because he called a TO just before they were about to kick a FG to close a lead we had. The TO gave McVay a chance to rethink the decision, he puts his offense back on the field and they score a TD after converting on 4th, after which we lost the game.

I agree with kicking the FG. I can understand using it as an opportunity to build confidence, but when you have nil confidence in the OL to execute, the risk far outweighs the benefit.

We cannot build momentum with an OL that is this bad. Is it the players or coaches...F if I know. But they suck!!!