How culpable is GM John Schneider?

James in PA

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Pretty good read. We all know about the continual o line problems. But last year's external free agent signees were a joke. I just don't think John will change the way he conducts business.
 

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You can also hit that little reader view icon that will allow you to see it. That's what I did.

But the article is pretty much what has been discussed around here ad nauseam. I tend to agree with most of the knocks on JS. Except, I'd add managing the cap to the list. Seems like we are always up against it.
 

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Michael-Shawn Dugar raises a lot of issues that we have discussed here. The thing that hit home for me is that Dugar says we now have over ten years of data that suggests things will not get better.

The comparison with the Rams is also very striking. The Seahawks got a lot of draft capital in the Russell Wilson trade whereas the Rams were completed depleted when they gave away all their draft picks to build their Super Bowl championship team. Plus they lost their star players to retirement and free agency in the years after the Super Bowl. And yet, in the last three years, the Rams have, even with their limited draft resources, built a better core of young players than we have.
 

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Michael-Shawn Dugar raises a lot of issues that we have discussed here. The thing that hit home for me is that Dugar says we now have over ten years of data that suggests things will not get better.

The comparison with the Rams is also very striking. The Seahawks got a lot of draft capital in the Russell Wilson trade whereas the Rams were completed depleted when they gave away all their draft picks to build their Super Bowl championship team. Plus they lost their star players to retirement and free agency in the years after the Super Bowl. And yet, in the last three years, the Rams have, even with their limited draft resources, built a better core of young players than we have.
its doesn't seem to have translated into anything substantial. the rams are on the downswing.
 
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It still irks me that despite the trade with the donkeys, they have a promising young quarterback and they made the playoffs in a division that was better than ours.
 

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Thanks for the read. Think he underplayed how good Murphy II looks (to a lesser degree, felt the same about what he said regarding Knight and Barner) to make the draft sound worse than it was.

He also takes the 'bad offensive line for 10 years' stuff at face value when it's not that clear cut. (2021 and 2022 they were below average but not garbage. They were probably at least okay--if not good--from 2018-2020 though offensive line specific stats are hard to come by outside of the last few years, but they were #1 in Time to Pressure in 2018 combined with being top 10 in run stuff rate. The fact that Russ took a lot of sacks and JS's comments about drafting IOL have really overly influenced this conversation.)

This was definitely a questionable off-season for FAs, but this was also his first time trying to get players for a brand new HC and he made good adjustments mid-season.

We'll see how he handles this off-season now that he and Macdonald have a season under their belt together.

It still irks me that despite the trade with the donkeys, they have a promising young quarterback and they made the playoffs in a division that was better than ours.
Yeah, but they were in a much worse conference. They went 3-3 in their division, we went 4-2 and we had the same overall record. It just happened to be that the top half of the league was very NFC heavy and we got to be the only 10 win team that didn't make the playoffs.

Yay us!
 

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Was just reading an article on ESPN, "2025 NFL offseason: Free agents, draft notes, predictions".

Big prediction for the offseason: With his seat getting hotter in the post Pete Carroll-era, general manager John Schneider will buck his career trends and start investing heavily in the offensive line. The Seahawks will spend on Ben Bredeson and James Daniels to secure their guard spots and add Mekhi Becton to potentially kick back out to tackle. I'm not sure it will actually work, but they'll start spending, for sure. -- Solak

I just couldn't see Schneids going that hard on FA OL. I guess a first for anything though.
 

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Michael-Shawn Dugar raises a lot of issues that we have discussed here. The thing that hit home for me is that Dugar says we now have over ten years of data that suggests things will not get better.

The comparison with the Rams is also very striking. The Seahawks got a lot of draft capital in the Russell Wilson trade whereas the Rams were completed depleted when they gave away all their draft picks to build their Super Bowl championship team. Plus they lost their star players to retirement and free agency in the years after the Super Bowl. And yet, in the last three years, the Rams have, even with their limited draft resources, built a better core of young players than we have.

A lot of that os coaching. Drop those same players in Seattle and i doubt that prior to Mac being here, they perform the same.

I'll give Schneider the benefit of the doubt for having been tied to buikding a team for / with Pete. He is one year removed from that regime and his biggest miss this year IMO was OC. I know i am in the minority here, but i genuinely belive that had we had even competent NFL playcalling, we win one or two more games. And if that happens, we are in the playoffs, the line doesnt look as bad, and we are talking about how close we are to another championship.

The Grubb hire threw a lot of what might have been out the window.
 

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I think that Macdonald being here a full season is going to alter their dynamic quite a bit. I suspect last years player acquisition were a result of Schneider's view of the team and what he thought Macdonald would want. This year I assume they'll be sitting down for long periods of time to discuss each player on the roster, where upgrades are needed, and what traits Macdonald is looking for. Sure, that happened last year too...but now Mac has the measure of the players and isn't just going by what schneider says. Look at the players we acquired midseason as an example.

We know that Schneider is technically the boss but I'd like to think there is a lot of collaboration at this point.
 

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I seriously doubt Mac didnt sign off on Schneider's FA signings from last year. Schneider doesn't strike me as an iron fist type.
 

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