Flip/flop the RB's?

[BASF]

You left out one of their dline starters. LJ Collier. Hmmmmm

Collier does not play defensive tackle.

 

[Seattle Person]

No, A healthy walker would have been he's typical 5yd Barry Sanders and had a 2yd gain... We needed downhill/strong running not dancing... don't get me wrong I love Walker, but he would've failed today..

Look at the tape again. Holes were created by scheme and play design. Charbonnet had a great game but Walker and even McIntosh would have had huge games.

I think fans are overreacting a little bit too much here. The Hawks flipped the script on the Cardinals and any of the Hawks RBs would have feasted. Charbonnet went completely untouched for a lot of his big runs. The pulling and traps caused a sorts of trouble for Arizona.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Lol, good lord. Walker is the best back on this team by far, he would have been unstoppable yesterday the way the line was blocking.

Yes, this whole thing is crazy. At least the coaches know who’s the best RB on this team, even though some fans do not. Use Charbs in short yardage inside power runs and Walker for most else. That’s what I expect to see in the playoffs.

 

[hedgehawk]

Go with who is working better.

 

[oldhawkfan]

Collier does not play defensive tackle.

No but he plays on their defensive line. What does his presence on that line say about their overall talent?!

 

[BASF]

No but he plays on their defensive line. What does his presence on that line say about their overall talent?!

Collier does have some talent. His problem has always been motivation and putting it all together. It is interesting though, because of your comment, I decided to take an even deeper look at each teams (you know the whole two teams we have faced with "the same offensive line") depth charts. All four of the Jets defensive line were first round picks, the lowest being number fifteen, so top half of the first round. Seems like it would be pretty tough to open holes against all that talent. Looking at the Cardinals, they have only two first rounders in their front seven. Only Zaven Collins was picked in the top half of the first round. Of course, we know all about Collier being a huge disappointment as a first rounder. Then there is a third round pick, fourth round pick, fifth round pick, sixth round pick and an undrafted free agent. If I am being honest looking at their talent, it is pretty damn impressive what their coaching staff has done with that defense. If they get some more talent on that side of the ball, we will have some stiff competition.

But, yeah, the whole premise of this thread is seriously premature considering even a cursory glance at the opponents we faced.

 

[Lagartixa]

Collier does not play defensive tackle.

Doesn't do much at DE either.

Write down the date, folks. That's the last bitchy thing you'll ever hear me say.

 

[Seahawks fan]

Look at the tape again. Holes were created by scheme and play design. Charbonnet had a great game but Walker and even McIntosh would have had huge games.

I think fans are overreacting a little bit too much here. The Hawks flipped the script on the Cardinals and any of the Hawks RBs would have feasted. Charbonnet went completely untouched for a lot of his big runs. The pulling and traps caused a sorts of trouble for Arizona.

I saw Charbs staying patient behind the line of scrimmage and those holes were able to open up... Even on the 51yd td run (in my mind) I see Walker trying to break it outside instead of following his blockers...

 

[JPatera76]

Can't we just have nice things?

are you going to passive aggressively comment or respond with something vague to every single post that has a differentiating opinion of yours? I'm curious since seemingly that's all you've done in this thread as well as others.

hypothetically what if someone said KMac even looked better than Walker.. which still isnt far off from being unbelievable and thats a 3rd string rb whos seen the field for the first time this season.. whats the excuse then? The Oline playing better? Or Walker cant read the line, avoiding holes, or is impatient and his own impatience is causing his issues?

 

[jlwaters1]

No, A healthy walker would have been he's typical 5yd Barry Sanders and had a 2yd gain... We needed downhill/strong running not dancing... don't get me wrong I love Walker, but he would've failed today..

Has it ever occurred to you, the reason K9 has been doing so much dancing is because he’s getting contacted the majority of the time behind the LOS? When there are holes, he has a knack of hitting them. K9 would have loved to have thr holes Charbs got today.

It’s funny just a few weeks ago people were saying how useless Charbs was and what a wasted pick, he has no ability to run hard. Now all of a sudden he has room to run and people have done a 180

 

[SoulfishHawk]

are you going to passive aggressively comment or respond with something vague to every single post that has a differentiating opinion of yours? I'm curious since seemingly that's all you've done in this thread as well as others.

hypothetically what if someone said KMac even looked better than Walker.. which still isnt far off from being unbelievable and thats a 3rd string rb whos seen the field for the first time this season.. whats the excuse then? The Oline playing better? Or Walker cant read the line, avoiding holes, or is impatient and his own impatience is causing his issues?

It was joke man. Damn. Wow.

Nevermind.

 

[Seahawks fan]

Has it ever occurred to you, the reason K9 has been doing so much dancing is because he’s getting contacted the majority of the time behind the LOS?

Dude, Look at the stats between both backs before this last game and you'll see that Charbs has matched KW3 in stats run for run and you'll also see that Charbs given his opportunities this year he's preformed very well (I can't say that about KW3)

You can not use the excuse "Walker has no Oline" because Charbs is running behind the same O-LINE.. I'm astonished that people don't understand this clear fact...

 

[jlwaters1]

before last game K9 was averaging 3.7 ypc, vs Charbs 3.5 ypc. Both were struggling.
K9 is 2nd in the league in getting contacted behind the LOS. That’s a serious problem.

The OL’s best performance this season was last week, which was a major factor in Charbs success.

 

[Seahawks fan]

before last game K9 was averaging 3.7 ypc, vs Charbs 3.5 ypc. Both were struggling.
K9 is 2nd in the league in getting contacted behind the LOS. That’s a serious problem.

The OL’s best performance this season was last week, which was a major factor in Charbs success.

Sure, But KW3 was getting the bulk of the carries and that means alot, that means KW3 had more opportunities to get into a rhythm.. Where Charbs was getting like 3-5 carries a game starving for action...

 

[Seahawks fan]

before last game K9 was averaging 3.7 ypc, vs Charbs 3.5 ypc. Both were struggling.
K9 is 2nd in the league in getting contacted behind the LOS. That’s a serious problem.

The OL’s best performance this season was last week, which was a major factor in Charbs success.

Look, I'm not saying KW3 is trash, but I am saying Charbs needs more carries because he's earned it and proved it on the field...

 

[cheese22]

K9 dances and scrambles because he has to. When there is a hole, he hits it quick. Anyone saying he wouldn't have been able to do what Charbs didn't against the Cards is crazy. Give Walker those same gaps and he easily matches what Charbs did...and I love Charbs. Great 1-2 punch.

 

[Seattle Person]

I saw Charbs staying patient behind the line of scrimmage and those holes were able to open up... Even on the 51yd td run (in my mind) I see Walker trying to break it outside instead of following his blockers...

What?

It's a counter play. He is supposed to wait for his line to pull. He didn't even get touched 8-10 yards in. He did make the right read at the end to cut in to a bigger hole for the home run.

Walker can't do what Charbs did with that huge hole? Remember again, the Hawks spammed counters with pullers the whole game. Charbs didn't have to create that much.

I don't understand what people are trying to say. We are acting like Chabonnet has done this the whole season. He hasn't.

 

[Rat]

You can not use the excuse "Walker has no Oline" because Charbs is running behind the same O-LINE.. I'm astonished that people don't understand this clear fact...

Except for the three players who are different. Out of five.

 

[Atradees]

I hope it's still K9s job. He can be star if healthy.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

are you going to passive aggressively comment or respond with something vague to every single post that has a differentiating opinion of yours? I'm curious since seemingly that's all you've done in this thread as well as others.

hypothetically what if someone said KMac even looked better than Walker.. which still isnt far off from being unbelievable and thats a 3rd string rb whos seen the field for the first time this season.. whats the excuse then? The Oline playing better? Or Walker cant read the line, avoiding holes, or is impatient and his own impatience is causing his issues?

Make my day. Trade Walker to the Bears.