Dump Adams. Bring in Slay.

[CalgaryFan05]

Whaddaya think?

 

[VaHawk]

Slay extended with the Eagles already

 

[Maelstrom787]

I'm good. Diggs would like it, but Slay is getting pretty old at this point. Adams is still a solid player, just a huge injury risk.

The real thing I'd like it a pay cut for Adams and to stand pat otherwise. We've got a huge draft class coming up.

Oh, and as stated, Slay is unavailable.

 

[onanygivensunday]

Not practical and don't have the cap space to burn by cutting Adams.

 

[Jville]

I don't think this is the forum within which to start a smear campaign.

 

[Chukarhawk]

I don't think this is the forum within which to start a smear campaign.

?

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Well, and I'm a complete idiot - I was reading day old news! Thought Slay was still available -

Sorry 'bout that -

 

[Own The West]

Change it to dump Adams, bring in Love…

 

[Mad Dog]

You people do realize that we would likely go over the cap if we cut Adams this year? His signing bonus becomes a cap number as soon as he’s cut.

 

[sc85sis]

We can’t afford to cut Adams, and we will hopefully get at least some play out of him this season.

Slay is staying with Philly.

 

[renofox]

You people do realize that we would likely go over the cap if we cut Adams this year? His signing bonus becomes a cap number as soon as he’s cut.

8.44M cap savings for 2023 with post 6/1 designation.

 

[nanomoz]

8.44M cap savings for 2023 with post 6/1 designation.

This is what Joe Fann says, and he's pretty reliable. Good read, here: https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1746...ing-jamal-adams-is-an-option-albeit-unlikely/

 

[flv2]

If the Seahawks were going to cut Adams before August they would have done it in February when none of his 2023 salary was guaranteed. The Seahawks might end up cutting Adams later in the year, but it's not going to happen before they've had a chance to evaluate him on the practice field in July.

 

[Jville]

This is what Joe Fann says, and he's pretty reliable. Good read, here: https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1746...ing-jamal-adams-is-an-option-albeit-unlikely/

Helpful post. Although Joe Fann doesn't mention a resulting $14.22 million dead cap charge that would come due in 2024. Total 2023 + 2024 dead cap charges would add up to $24.1. A hang over number that is much greater than the Carlos Dunlap hang over but less than the $25 million dead cap charge for Russell Wilson in 2022.

However it's all academic at this point. There is definitive Union language protecting injured players.

 

[renofox]

This is what Joe Fann says, and he's pretty reliable. Good read, here: https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1746...ing-jamal-adams-is-an-option-albeit-unlikely/

The article agrees that 8.44M would be saved. He gives his reasons why he is against the cut.

I disagree that potential negative locker room disturbances would occur. Players want to win, and most probably think that using the 8.44M elsewhere would be better for the team. I don't think they view "I'm the best in the nation" as highly as Fann thinks. Most people find non-contributing blowhards obnoxious.

The odds of JA contributing 8.44M of value to the team are very small.

 

[Lagartixa]

8.44M cap savings for 2023 with post 6/1 designation.

Yes, but then there's another $14.22M of dead cap next season (2024) too, plus the Seahawks have to carry Adams on the roster until June 2, which means the $8.44M of cap this season can't be used in free agency.

Edited to add: and as @Jville points out, since Adams has been injured, the Seahawks probably can't cut Adams now.

 

[Jville]

Yes, but then there's another $14.22M of dead cap next season (2024) too, plus the Seahawks have to carry Adams on the roster until June 2, which means the $8.44M of cap this season can't be used in free agency.

Edited to add: and as @Jville points out, since Adams has been injured, the Seahawks probably can't cut Adams now.

It would take a negotiated injury settlement that both team representatives and player representatives agreed on.

Talks that are extremely unlikely to be taking place at this time.

 

[renofox]

Yes, but then there's another $14.22M of dead cap next season (2024) too, plus the Seahawks have to carry Adams on the roster until June 2, which means the $8.44M of cap this season can't be used in free agency.

The 14.22 is 2 years of 7.11 signing bonus which will have to absorbed as cap hit in the future no matter what happens.

You are correct that the 8.44M is not available til 6/2, but this is appx the amount of money that is set aside every year for injury replacements during the season and for signing good value positional players when teams cut to 53.

When it is available has little to no effect on the moves they make.

The fact that it will be available does.

 

[Jville]

Dead cap hits absolutely influence available cap, roster flexibility and what moves John can make.

And there are the rules regarding injured players that all parties must complied with.

 

[nanomoz]

The article agrees that 8.44M would be saved. He gives his reasons why he is against the cut.

I disagree that potential negative locker room disturbances would occur. Players want to win, and most probably think that using the 8.44M elsewhere would be better for the team. I don't think they view "I'm the best in the nation" as highly as Fann thinks. Most people find non-contributing blowhards obnoxious.

The odds of JA contributing 8.44M of value to the team are very small.

I know, I was agreeing--saying Joe Fann backed you up.