Colts looking to trade for RB?

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I know this idea has been turned over before but this could be a possible scenario with the colts looking to trade. With our depth at the position & number of spots taken up on the roster would you trade one of our boys to them if so who & what's realistic compensation for them.
 

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An inebriated Jim Irsay tweets John Schneider and reports Luck has pissed him off. He adds that he thinks Russell Wilson is cute.

He then proposes a blockbuster trade of Wilson, Lynch and our 1st for Luck..

Would you do it?
 

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HawkWow":3a6uabw4 said:
An inebriated Jim Irsay tweets John Schneider and reports Luck has pissed him off. He adds that he thinks Russell Wilson is cute.

He then proposes a blockbuster trade of Wilson, Lynch and our 1st for Luck..

Would you do it?


You mean an inebriated John Schneider, then when Irsay says hell yea John laughs then hangs up.
 

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HawkWow":18iwilxq said:
An inebriated Jim Irsay tweets John Schneider and reports Luck has pissed him off. He adds that he thinks Russell Wilson is cute.

He then proposes a blockbuster trade of Wilson, Lynch and our 1st for Luck..

Would you do it?
My advice? Is step away from the alcohol......
 

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The rosterbator side of me thinks "dangle them Marshawn Lynch for a 1st!" But somehow, I think we'd regret that trade. I honestly think Christine Michael has as much talent as Lynch does, but Lynch fits Tom Cable so perfectly. Lynch is the perfect power-ZBS RB.
 

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HawkWow":313ebpn9 said:
An inebriated Jim Irsay tweets John Schneider and reports Luck has pissed him off. He adds that he thinks Russell Wilson is cute.

He then proposes a blockbuster trade of Wilson, Lynch and our 1st for Luck..

Would you do it?
LOL, um no!
 

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Lynch is the only RB with real value we have. Turbin might be worth something but I doubt it would be better than a late round pick. If they could get a fourth for him I'd pull the trigger.
 

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KCHawkGirl":2a9x4mro said:
HawkWow":2a9x4mro said:
An inebriated Jim Irsay tweets John Schneider and reports Luck has pissed him off. He adds that he thinks Russell Wilson is cute.

He then proposes a blockbuster trade of Wilson, Lynch and our 1st for Luck..

Would you do it?
My advice? Is step away from the alcohol......

Yeah but...nobody asked for your predictably glib "advice", sir.

Do you need a little extra time with the question?
 

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Taking age, contract(s) and draft position into consideration, I think JS would make this trade. I know I would. ML is God...but (currently) worth no more than 4th. He also makes a lot of money and who knows how much he has left in the tank? I think it's his last year with the team, anyway. Which sux...but it's a cold biz, as we know.

Wilson is awesome but you're homin if you think his career will be on par with Luck's. Luck is a very rare talent. Has the tools to be considered a cross between Manning and Rodgers. He's a football genius and tireless worker. There's not a QB in the league with a higher ceiling and barring injury, definitely a perennial pro-bowler. Luck would take the Hawks to the SB several times over the next several years, IMO. Wilson is fun and exciting, he's not a sure thing.

Our 1st? Well. It will be a low 1st to begin with. And we're not exactly hitting jackpots with regularity in the 1st either.

I know RW is our hero. I say that in all sincerity and such a trade would sting a lot......much the way Manning's departure stung in Indy. But it's a trade that would pay dividends for many years. I know I don't need to remind anyone of what types of QBs , other than Steve Young, that have dominated the league all these years. Oh...and Fran Tarkenton. How many did he win?
 

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Not the Colts, but the Giants are in a desperate way for a RB..

They have good supply of DL'men too work with.
 

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HawkWow":2wvzutvd said:
Taking age, contract(s) and draft position into consideration, I think JS would make this trade. I know I would. ML is God...but (currently) worth no more than 4th. He also makes a lot of money and who knows how much he has left in the tank? I think it's his last year with the team, anyway. Which sux...but it's a cold biz, as we know.

Wilson is awesome but you're homin if you think his career will be on par with Luck's. Luck is a very rare talent. Has the tools to be considered a cross between Manning and Rodgers. He's a football genius and tireless worker. There's not a QB in the league with a higher ceiling and barring injury, definitely a perennial pro-bowler. Luck would take the Hawks to the SB several times over the next several years, IMO. Wilson is fun and exciting, he's not a sure thing.

ML for no more than a 4th? Would you agree that ML is as good, if not better than Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, CJ Spiller, etc.

I would've trade our late second rounder (last pick in the second round) for any of those guys let alone a 4th. But I do think that he's definitely not worth as much to another team to trade for as much as he is to remain on this team.Yes, we don't know how much gas in the tank Lynch has, but that could be said for any player. If he declines, than yes, it's time for him to go, but as long as he's producing, no need to rid him unless there's someone better. And yes, he gets paid a lot, but obviously it's cause he's a top RB in the game. Only solution for not paying talent, is to keep drafting it and letting the older ones go, but that's a lot easier said than done.

Wilson is not a sure thing, but neither is Luck. He's not prone to substandard play and his first season shows it. I think it's pretty agreeable that Wilson & RG3 had a better first season. Luck may have a better career, I don't know, I can't see the future, but everything you say that may make Luck a good QB in the future can be said for Wilson too, aside from height. Wilson is a tireless worker, football genius, study's hard, etc. Pretty much all the tools except for height. I agree that Luck has a higher ceiling though, but potential is a hard thing to measure and the only way to really see it is to let them play.
 

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I'm not giving Wilson up for anything, you can try and throw all the ESPN crap you want at me it's not happening, he's our very own franchise guy, we drafted him and IMO just as good as Luck aside from the height thing which doesn't even matter anymore.

As for the Colts? I'd give em open options for any RB aside from Michael.
 

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We really need a fantasy football forum for these dumb trade ideas, you don't get rid of the biggest threat on the offense during a Super Bowl run, if your going to trade every one of your proven players you might as well call them the Seatttle Sea Mariners.

Many of these ideas about money and caps are non issues, John and Pete have a plan and yes some players will be let go, but the other side is you want to be the Cardinals.
 

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dontbelikethat":3by2tvqa said:
HawkWow":3by2tvqa said:
Taking age, contract(s) and draft position into consideration, I think JS would make this trade. I know I would. ML is God...but (currently) worth no more than 4th. He also makes a lot of money and who knows how much he has left in the tank? I think it's his last year with the team, anyway. Which sux...but it's a cold biz, as we know.

Wilson is awesome but you're homin if you think his career will be on par with Luck's. Luck is a very rare talent. Has the tools to be considered a cross between Manning and Rodgers. He's a football genius and tireless worker. There's not a QB in the league with a higher ceiling and barring injury, definitely a perennial pro-bowler. Luck would take the Hawks to the SB several times over the next several years, IMO. Wilson is fun and exciting, he's not a sure thing.

ML for no more than a 4th? Would you agree that ML is as good, if not better than Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, CJ Spiller, etc.

I would've trade our late second rounder (last pick in the second round) for any of those guys let alone a 4th. But I do think that he's definitely not worth as much to another team to trade for as much as he is to remain on this team.Yes, we don't know how much gas in the tank Lynch has, but that could be said for any player. If he declines, than yes, it's time for him to go, but as long as he's producing, no need to rid him unless there's someone better. And yes, he gets paid a lot, but obviously it's cause he's a top RB in the game. Only solution for not paying talent, is to keep drafting it and letting the older ones go, but that's a lot easier said than done.

Wilson is not a sure thing, but neither is Luck. He's not prone to substandard play and his first season shows it. I think it's pretty agreeable that Wilson & RG3 had a better first season. Luck may have a better career, I don't know, I can't see the future, but everything you say that may make Luck a good QB in the future can be said for Wilson too, aside from height. Wilson is a tireless worker, football genius, study's hard, etc. Pretty much all the tools except for height. I agree that Luck has a higher ceiling though, but potential is a hard thing to measure and the only way to really see it is to let them play.

Excellent post. I can't argue with anything you've said here. It's all very subjective. I should take this opportunity to say that ML is my favorite back and there is no player in the league that infatuates me like RW. I do not mean to diminish the merits of either ML or RW when predicting the success of Luck and what he would bring to this team.
 

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chris98251":3f7tajpg said:
We really need a fantasy football forum for these dumb trade ideas, you don't get rid of the biggest threat on the offense during a Super Bowl run, if your going to trade every one of your proven players you might as well call them the Seatttle Sea Mariners.

Many of these ideas about money and caps are non issues, John and Pete have a plan and yes some players will be let go, but the other side is you want to be the Cardinals.

The OP asked for a proposed trade of comparable value. If this question was asked in a Colts forum (or even a neutral forum)...most would likely say ML, RW and a 1st would be comparable value for Luck. Many would think that's not enough.

Homerism aside, you realize that every team in the league is on "a superbowl run". Yes Pete has a plan, but if you don't think he would consider such a move, you're delusional. Further, ML and RW are not "every one of (our) proven players" and there is nothing "dumb" about discussing the mutual merits of such a trade on a discussion board.
 

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Screw Andrew Luck.


Let him throw picks and never shower after games, back East.


I'll take what Wilson brings to the table over him a thousand times. Luck may be a special talent skill wise, but Wilson has shown more intangibles (and every bit of skill Luck has).


Luck could BARELY beat a terrible Raiders team, they really should have lst that game. Wilson wouldn't even be sniffing a loss to Oakland, not a chance in hell that would happen.
 

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HawkWow":18spa7x0 said:
chris98251":18spa7x0 said:
We really need a fantasy football forum for these dumb trade ideas, you don't get rid of the biggest threat on the offense during a Super Bowl run, if your going to trade every one of your proven players you might as well call them the Seatttle Sea Mariners.

Many of these ideas about money and caps are non issues, John and Pete have a plan and yes some players will be let go, but the other side is you want to be the Cardinals.

The OP asked for a proposed trade of comparable value. If this question was asked in a Colts forum (or even a neutral forum)...most would likely say ML, RW and a 1st would be comparable value for Luck. Many would think that's not enough.

Homerism aside, you realize that every team in the league is on "a superbowl run". Yes Pete has a plan, but if you don't think he would consider such a move, you're delusional. Further, ML and RW are not "every one of (our) proven players" and there is nothing "dumb" about discussing the mutual merits of such a trade on a discussion board.

That's because most people are idiots, and by proposing this trade, it shows the rest of us you actually haven't paid attention to the relative play of Wilson and Andrew "How the hell was that not a turnover?" Luck.

You're the delusional one. RW > Luck.

I also like how you refer to "many" to back up your assertions as though it adds legitimacy to your argument to reference NO ONE but your imaginary masses.
 
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