Bears release guard Nate Davis

[bileever]

But before you get too excited, he's been benched after two games. PFF grade is 53.6, just slightly higher than Bradford's 50.4.

Plus he was signed to a 3 year, $30 million contract in 2023 by the Bears.

 

[evergreen]

ouch

 

[GeekHawk]

Yeah, no.

 

[keasley45]

That crap grade came in a Waldron coached offense, so you have to add at least 5 points.

 

[bileever]

He was pretty good in Tennessee, with a PFF grade of 71.1 before he got to Chicago. It's interesing that someone who was really good for three years, and is still young (28), could suddenly become bad. It could be that PFF grades are not that accurate, or perhaps that line play depends on who else is on that offensive line. It could be that Anthony Bradford's play improves dramatically once he's playing next to Abe Lucas.

 

[keasley45]

He was pretty good in Tennessee, with a PFF grade of 71.1 before he got to Chicago. It's interesing that someone who was really good for three years, and is still young (28), could suddenly become bad. It could be that PFF grades are not that accurate, or perhaps that line play depends on who else is on that offensive line. It could be that Anthony Bradford's play improves dramatically once he's playing next to Abe Lucas.

Nope. This tracks squarely with the bass ackwards (un)development of lineman once they dropped into Seattle under Waldron. They all regressed. Even Cross managed to get worse his sophomore year.

And all that special mojo has been passed on to Grubb Nad Huff and their non-rushing, pass happy offense.

 

[James in PA]

But before you get too excited, he's been benched after two games. PFF grade is 53.6

He'll fit right in!

 

[sutz]

Practice squad, maybe?

 

[Ozzy]

I'm open to anyone who can help us out. I haven't watched him play at all though so don't know much about him.

 

[James in PA]

The Bears o line is just as bad, if not worse, than ours. If we're signing someone they just let go, that ain't good.

 

[oldhawkfan]

But before you get too excited, he's been benched after two games. PFF grade is 53.6, just slightly higher than Bradford's 50.4.

Plus he was signed to a 3 year, $30 million contract in 2023 by the Bears.

Well, 53.6 is a higher number than 50.4….

 

[HawkoTuesday]

Sounds like he's a more expensive Bradford. Nah.

 

[chris98251]

The Bears o line is just as bad, if not worse, than ours. If we're signing someone they just let go, that ain't good.

well they did have our old OC and his system, who knows what a change can do.

 

[toffee]

Quite sure our pro personnel director, Willi Schneider will review this opportunity before submitting his evaluation reports to another Schneider for final consideration.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

He was good for the Titans. And i bet JS is going to give him a look. He is way better than Bradford at run blocking. There were rumors JS was high on him coming out of the draft. I'm all for it we need to keep turning the stone until we find something if we can.

 

[DarkVictory23]

The Bears o line is just as bad, if not worse, than ours. If we're signing someone they just let go, that ain't good.

I don't think this is true. Bears give up a ton of pressures and their QB is getting sacked a lot, but I'm pretty sure that's on their QB and their offensive scheme.

Per ESPN PBWR and RBWR, they are better than us in both pass blocking (by a decent amount) and run blocking (by a huge margin).

Using more traditional stats, we have the worst Time-To-Pressure rate in the NFL and the Bears have the 7th best.


I don't want to pay this dude's contract necessarily, but I would be mildly shocked if he came in and was actually worse than Bradford/Haynes have been at RG.

 

[Seahawks fan]

I heard this on the locked on seahawks podcast and, I believe it was Corbin that said it might have been a Dodson type of release we're the player wasn't having a benching so the twosides decided to part ways, Corbin & Rob both want the Hawks to go after Davis if he clears waivers and I agree...

 

[pittpnthrs]

Nope. This tracks squarely with the bass ackwards (un)development of lineman once they dropped into Seattle under Waldron. They all regressed. Even Cross managed to get worse his sophomore year.

And all that special mojo has been passed on to Grubb Nad Huff and their non-rushing, pass happy offense.

Take it easy Keas. Olinemen have sucked for years here in Seattle. Waldron isn't the cause for everything all the time.

 

[keasley45]

Take it easy Keas. Olinemen have sucked for years here in Seattle. Waldron isn't the cause for everything all the time.

An effective running game can help an o line considerably.

I didnt say he was the cause of everything all the time. But he for certain was responsible for some dumb playcalling, not running the ball, relying far too much on thr pass, which, combined with inexperienced coaching on the o line put too much pressure on the group.

The OC runs the offense. He oversees that side of the ball.

Bith Waldron and Grubb are too concerned with making names for themselves as offensive masterminds to just call a balanced, nuanced game. - well Grubb has yet to show he can, while Waldron... well, he is out of work.

And Seattle's o line problems over the years didnt always stem from the same place. Sometimes it was talent. Sometimes it was coaching. Sometimes it was a QB who held the ball too long and sometimes it was all 3.

Context is important.

 

[pittpnthrs]

An effective running game can help an o line considerably.

I didnt say he was the cause of everything all the time. But he for certain was responsible for some dumb playcalling, not running the ball, relying far too much on thr pass, which, combined with inexperienced coaching on the o line put too much pressure on the group.

The OC runs the offense. He oversees that side of the ball.

Bith Waldron and Grubb are too concerned with making names for themselves as offensive masterminds to just call a balanced, nuanced game. - well Grubb has yet to show he can, while Waldron... well, he is out of work.

And Seattle's o line problems over the years didnt always stem from the same place. Sometimes it was talent. Sometimes it was coaching. Sometimes it was a QB who held the ball too long and sometimes it was all 3.

Context is important.

Sure an effective running game helps, but you need to be able to run before it can be effective. You can't just say i'm going to run the ball and it's going to work when it doesn't.

Yeah context is important. Your laying blame on Wilson for holding onto the ball to long when Geno Smith had the same results behind that line. The Seahawks have gone through Oline coaches like a deck of cards and its been bad for a long time. Sure Waldron and Grubb deserve some blame, but I don't think they are the biggest issues. I honestly think its poor talent evaulation on the interior and lack of willingness to pay for good talent.